Free Talent Reset

[skuishy]

I think it shouldn't be... and we have to talk about that.
Respe cost is probably one of the last thing blizzlike on the server, gold is so hard to farm now, if u dont farm more than 8hours per day... and as a lot of players i have to work to live too... all things who giving us gold while farming mobs outside have been nerfed, without talking about all donjons farming gold nerf...
I can accept the gold respe if all ways to farm gold on the server back on blizzlike mode. but i cannot accept that if all things stay like they are now. it's just sad... and completly not fun.
Maybe it's easy for old players who having tons of gold but for new players is so so sad.
anyways....
Full/real blizzlike mode i/we want!!

[Pokeypointy]

Gold was much harder to get back in vanilla, the restrictions on getting gold are there so the market doesn't get inflated even more than it already is. The respec cost is only a problem if you don't know how to play. You don't give a medal to everyone who participates some athletic competition just because they want a medal. The ones that dedicate themselves the most, usually do best compared to the lazy ones.

[illutian]

I think it shouldn't be... and we have to talk about that.
Respe cost is probably one of the last thing blizzlike on the server, gold is so hard to farm now, if u dont farm more than 8hours per day... and as a lot of players i have to work to live too... all things who giving us gold while farming mobs outside have been nerfed, without talking about all donjons farming gold nerf...
I can accept the gold respe if all ways to farm gold on the server back on blizzlike mode. but i cannot accept that if all things stay like they are now. it's just sad... and completly not fun.
Maybe it's easy for old players who having tons of gold but for new players is so so sad.
anyways....
Full/real blizzlike mode i/we want!!

New player, started about 4 weeks ago only able to play on the weekends. And I've burned about 30 gold I think on talents (up to lvl 39 I just click buy I don't pay much attention to the cost).

Yet.

Still have 50 gold.

...Pick up gather talents

[Ohr]

If talent reset was free, people would be able to respec and farm at an industrial level. Like hunters farming Maraudon. It's too dangerous as the economy might crumble.

[skuishy]

If talent reset was free, people would be able to respec and farm at an industrial level. Like hunters farming Maraudon. It's too dangerous as the economy might crumble.

I/we will not farm as a industrial level coz i/we just have no time for that.. Then, coz hunters, ppl must be nerf? Dont blame hunters coz, when i see the total nonsense price at AH, i'm asking some questions... lol ex: foror: 400g!! LOL / truefaith robe recipe(without mats): 400g lol? / Eye of shadow: 70g lol ?? pot/flask of... : 100g each...... / black lotus : 60gold.. It was abslolutly not like that on live. All this is Total NOSENSE. anyway...
I think it's too late to talk about economy, u had to do something at the beginning, it's not correct for now..
And just let me remind you, This is a game > a game is made for fun and nothing is fun in that, finaly what's the problem to have lot of gold or not...
As a lot of players, i'm here to fun, not for playing an economic game...

And let me make a small digression about animosity mister "Vorfidus": Admins/devs should be focused on tons of poisons players that i see each day that i play on the server who talking in chat about moms, racism, gay , and more.... instead of be focused on a way to nerf ppl who just wants playin a fun game as he was before. cancer community should be the first priority, and i can see it's not...

Regards.

[Pokeypointy]

If talent reset was free, people would be able to respec and farm at an industrial level. Like hunters farming Maraudon. It's too dangerous as the economy might crumble.

I/we will not farm as a industrial level coz i/we just have no time for that.. Then, coz hunters, ppl must be nerf? Dont blame hunters coz, when i see the total nonsense price at AH, i'm asking some questions... lol ex: foror: 400g!! LOL / truefaith robe recipe(without mats): 400g lol? / Eye of shadow: 70g lol ?? pot/flask of... : 100g each...... / black lotus : 60gold.. It was abslolutly not like that on live. All this is Total NOSENSE. anyway...
I think it's too late to talk about economy, u had to do something at the beginning, it's not correct for now..
And just let me remind you, This is a game > a game is made for fun and nothing is fun in that, finaly what's the problem to have lot of gold or not...
As a lot of players, i'm here to fun, not for playing an economic game...

And let me make a small digression about animosity mister "Vorfidus": Admins/devs should be focused on tons of poisons players that i see each day that i play on the server who talking in chat about moms, racism, gay , and more.... instead of be focused on a way to nerf ppl who just wants playin a fun game as he was before. cancer community should be the first priority, and i can see it's not...

Regards.

You're saying they should ban smack-talkers for being sour on forums and let the exploiters be because the economy is inflated at the moment?

[Noxm]

Naxx patch 1.11

The cost to unlearn talents will now decay over time. This cost will be reduced by a rate of 5 gold per month to a minimum of 10 gold.

Source : http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_1.11.0

[skuishy]

Yes Pokeypointy,

I think they should do that in first priority, but not meaning they will never do something about "exploit" as u said.
For me an exploit is a non legit way to do something (in game or elsewhere..)
Using correctly his class and make gold by dint of that it's not an exploit for me, i take a simple example : hunter use FD for passing some group of mobs instead of kill / trying to kill them. Is it an exploit ? if you think it is, why just not remove fd from hunt so.. this is ridiculous and same thing for a lot of class skills. or class duo / trio... And in same time u can remove high gear stuffs, coz with that u will able to make some great things. ridiculous again..
You should not confound "exploit" and "game mechanism" that's all i say
About inflation : ex: probably they should put respawn rate of herbs depending on the population on this server or making something like that. 100gold for a flask is a total nonsense and i never saw that on a full server 10y ago.
But all this is total off topic.

My last words are : Maybe decrease de gold requirement for respe is a good way for ppl to use a good spe for farming instead of using kinds of exploit or game mechanism to making gold because they need 50Gold each time they want going farm. A lot of players just want play with fun, and without gold in wow it's not fun. Dont forget, it's a game, game made for fun Just let these things as blizzlike they was and that's all.
Also this server is completly full of population (good and bad ppl) i can understand it's not easy for dev/admins to find a good solution about all these problems. But they probably be more blizzlike spirit instead of trying to much things.

Best regards.

[Pokeypointy]

Yes Pokeypointy,

I think they should do that in first priority, but not meaning they will never do something about "exploit" as u said.
For me an exploit is a non legit way to do something (in game or elsewhere..)
Using correctly his class and make gold by dint of that it's not an exploit for me, i take a simple example : hunter use FD for passing some group of mobs instead of kill / trying to kill them. Is it an exploit ? if you think it is, why just not remove fd from hunt so.. this is ridiculous and same thing for a lot of class skills. or class duo / trio... And in same time u can remove high gear stuffs, coz with that u will able to make some great things. ridiculous again..
You should not confound "exploit" and "game mechanism" that's all i say
About inflation : ex: probably they should put respawn rate of herbs depending on the population on this server or making something like that. 100gold for a flask is a total nonsense and i never saw that on a full server 10y ago.
But all this is total off topic.

My last words are : Maybe decrease de gold requirement for respe is a good way for ppl to use a good spe for farming instead of using kinds of exploit or game mechanism to making gold because they need 50Gold each time they want going farm. A lot of players just want play with fun, and without gold in wow it's not fun. Dont forget, it's a game, game made for fun Just let these things as blizzlike they was and that's all.
Also this server is completly full of population (good and bad ppl) i can understand it's not easy for dev/admins to find a good solution about all these problems. But they probably be more blizzlike spirit instead of trying to much things.

Best regards.

I am very sure that lowering respec costs would do nothing against industrious and/or exploitive farming, people will still get as much gold as possible, that won't change. It takes away from the minimal time consumption needed to play wow vanilla properly, which is a needless change.

[Setup]

Brought up many times; always answered "no."
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 20#p137953

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 73#p137068
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13132
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https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=945
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=507
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=96
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An amazing compilation.

These people may as well be asking for Nost to mail them 50g every week. (It would be amusing if one of them actually suggested a new method to offset the gold sink... like, say, doubling the cost of armor repairs, making every flight cost 1g at level 60, etc.)