A 2nd PVP realm?

[Odomiah]

I certainly disagree with more realms. They should focus more on reducing the lag on the servers they already have. I love this server for the population.

Hello there.... wake up

Trion, Blizzard, Perfect World, Gamers First, Carbine Studios.... those are rich COMPANIES that can't solve the problem of lagg on the way you expect.
If companies that host multiple mmos can't fix a lagg caused by OVERPOPULATION on their realms how do expect VOLUNTEERS, that work for 0 dollars/euros, to do so.?

All of those companies I mentioned are the ones I have seen facing same exact issue like we have here.
Nost can eventually get rid of lagg on week or few days more, but it's gonna get back eventually.
What if it gets back just in the time when you raid? I'd rather not be in your skin than. You will be so mad.
We canceled RFK run due to lagg yesterday night... a fucking RFK.

Solution is to open another realm - not a rocket science.
Trion did that, Carbine Studios did that...
Trion closed character creation on already existing realms when they opened new ones.
Carbine Studios did the same when they launched Wildstar as F2P like month or two ago.

Open NEW pvp realm - close character creation for new accounts on already existing realm.
Problem will solve itself...

Yes, it costs money. Yes, you work for free.
But it's what you wanted when you launched this project
Enjoy the hype you created, that hype is cause of laggs

EDIT:

Just crossed my mind....
Wildstar had MEGASERVER tech. On a f2p launch days, they were FORCED to open more realms.
So... megaservers... still can't play without lagg when overpopulated.
Guildwars 2 had same problem. I can't really understand how it works in that game, but they still have separate realms while having a megaserver where you meet all ppl from other realms.
Fact is that its STILL separated in char creation, guild hosting etc etc... All data is NOT stored on one server.

I don't expect them to fix the lagg. They can't and they won't. If they fix it, than they are best developers I ever had a chance to meet in this gaming world.
We can still hope that they got funds to afford new realm, as it is the only solution for the lagg tested and implemented by every gaming company out there.

[zzxx]

......... >_<
You dont understand what causes lag and DCs. The population is not the source of it the majority of the time.

Im done posting in this thread, you people dont even know what your talking about.

[Macalister]

......... >_<
You dont understand what causes lag and DCs. The population is not the source of it the majority of the time.

Im done posting in this thread, you people dont even know what your talking about.

You are cute. You have absolutely no information so neither do you, right?
Every input from you is just feelings, if you actually want to contribute to this conversation you could use words to explain why you feel a certain way, eventually your words will form an argument. None of which you have provided so far.

Odomiah for example has a great post, it explains why he believes that Nostalrius wont suffer from another realm, he also adds alternate suggestions if this is not possible.
Soak it in. Read the words. If you feel differently, say why and how, with words.

[Odomiah]

......... >_<
You dont understand what causes lag and DCs. The population is not the source of it the majority of the time.

Im done posting in this thread, you people dont even know what your talking about.

I love such guys. They always bring some "importance" with them when they enter the room...
#thuglife

On a serious note.... according to the FAQ we will have 3 realms. When Naxx hits the scene its just matter of time when TBC is gonna be opened.
In case they open second pvp realm before TBC launch, if majority of people transfers on TBC they can just merge the realms and that single vanilla realm will again have solid population.

[Greengrass]

Can we have IRONMAN server? Without spirit healers and ghosts? Death means death. If you have been killed, then start new character.

This will be most loud advert for Nost. First hardcore WOW server in the world.

[Soulxlock]

Can we have IRONMAN server? Without spirit healers and ghosts? Death means death. If you have been killed, then start new character.

This will be most loud advert for Nost. First hardcore WOW server in the world.

Should be a PvP realm of course

[Valandar]

3rd realm, being second PvP realm, will never kill this game. I'm saying game cuz lets face it, what comes close to such hype amount and population numbers in world of private servers? Nothing, literally nothing.

Yesterday night my guild had like 11 people online when laggs occurred. 5 mins after whole world started doing /y LAGGGG my guild had 3 people online, counting myself.
They all logged out with same excuse: "unplayable, time for break."

Trust me on this. If that "time for break" happens too often, people WILL take a longer break aka leave server.
We all enjoy this population, but staff has no solution for this. Further more finding herbs and ores on Nostalrius is far from blizzlike experience but there is another topic on that matter.

This thing happened on ArcheAge and Wildstar too. It's solved very fast by following decisions:

- open new realm (pvp label ofc)
- close character creation for NEW ACCOUNTS on already existing pvp realm

That way, new players will populate new realm. That way you are stressing of the existing realm of getting more players and more lagg.
When new realm gets decent population re-activate char creation on first pvp realm (see why I suggest re-naming the realms now?? this gets confusing. )

It's simple solution which, sadly, costs money. I'm not going to demand anything from people that are investing their time in this while having 0 profit out of it.
However, I can only appeal to them to act fast and realize that having this population is counter-productive in some of game areas.

It takes 2 things to make Nostalrius be better than it is:
- adding more herb/ore nodes in world (keeping the actual x1 spawn rate)
- adding new pvp realm while closing char creation on already existing pvp realm
(optional) - rename these realms for god's sake You WILL have 3 realm in future, there is no way you will avoid that. Will your every realm be named as Nostalrius Begins PVP PvP ?!?!
Support my "rename the realms campaign" HERE

I think you are confused on how lag works. Creating a new realm would NOT decrease lag, if anything it would increase it when more people start playing. You have to understand, they are not buying new servers for each realm. The PvP and PvE realm along with the Test Dev realms are all hosted under the same server, thus they all share bandwidth/speed. If you add more realms and more people play, it is going to slow down the server and make it more laggy.

The only way a new realm would benefit latency issues would be having the new realm on another dedicated server, which would cost lots of money that Nost devs do not have ( they do not get paid). Also, the devs are doing this for FREE and on their FREE TIME. You do understand they still have to work, do normal things and then dedicated their small amount of free time running the most populated WoW private server. This, along with short staff, 2 servers and a huge community is already a huge strain to the Nost Devs.

Also, with the amount of bugs and scripting issues still present, the devs should be spending more time on the code and implementation to better out playing experience rather than just churn out servers. That is my opinion.

People need to relax and understand that this has never been accomplished before, and is doing very well for a volunteer project that was done for fun and not to make a profit. Think things through before you keep posting to suggestions and support begging and asking the devs to create server or do random things because you think it will help ping/community/whatever.

Trust in the devs guys, they are doing what they can.

[Odomiah]

Val... read my posts few more times pls.
And don't caps "free"... we all know it and I've stated it multiple times.

Maybe i wasn't clear enough tough... new realm = new server (server as hardware)
That's why I said - "costs money". I'm saying that because I've been seeing it done countless time before on same problem.
It's nothing new.

They can't fix the problem on the way you expect. You won't be able to play with 7-8k ppl online and have no lagg. Yesterday night there were laggs again... and it will happen again... and again...

Further more, we can theorize here for months on end and its gonna change nothing.
Facts are simple. Server is overpopulated. They will open 3rd realm in future. This population doesn't provide complete blizzlike feeling, it's completely counterproductive in some aspects of game.
Our tears wont help.

If they had solution which you expect lagg would be gone, long ago. No other gaming company has that solution. Otherwise there wouldn't be separate servers incorporated even in megaserver technology.
For Nost, solution is money. Money is new server. They work for free. No money - no server. When they get money - no laggs.

Peace.

[Valandar]

You said nothing in any of your posts about a brand new physical server. Yes, we both agree they would need more money and a new server to fix any of the current latency issues. I also agree that would benefit gameplay a lot, and would love to see it. However, as you stated yourself they work for free so your idea is not feasible. The only way they would make money was if the devs start charging people to play, or set up a cash shop which = p2w. I don't want that to ever happen, only because they would turn into a company trying to make a profit, and we know where it goes from there. When it starts being about money, thats all people care about.

So yes, it sounds good to say "lets get a new server!" but when you sit and think about it it's not possible right now. Unless we get a gofundme.com page or something ridiculous for donations

[Prismane]

I'm a new player to Nostalrius and I would really like to see a new PvP server.

1. Would be nice to get that feeling of playing in a fresch new realm. (I know the PVE server is new, but I'm in for the PvP).
2. The current server is suffering delays etc with population over 8k. It's not stable.

But of course I know it'll cost money to make a new server so I'm not complaining but yeah it would be nice to see one