[Serious Discussion] Create Asian PvP server

[Pottu]

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[Glenzig]

Providing another pvp server would definitely seem to be the best option for the issues raised in this thread. However, it really wouldn't solve anything in the end since there is no way to enforce who logs onto the servers from where. So if the fear is that there will be too many Chinese players on nost, I think adding a second server would just exacerbate the problem. You would just end up with 2-3 times the Chinese population between the two servers.

[Pottu]

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[Cfred]

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[Bambam]

Can the Morality Police in this thread make an actual argument for infinity Chinese instead of just accusing everyone who doesn't want infinity Chinese of being racist?


I'm using the word infinity literally btw. Because you anti-racist ethical superheroes obviously would have no problem if the server was 90% Chinese, right? Because not wanting an infinite amount of Chinese is racist!

Face the truth, and admit that there is racism in this forum since ... well , way too long

[Slytheryn]

I would pay 100 USD just so that I can play on this awesome server with no lag. I'm sure there are lots of others who would donate aswell.

Agree completely with this.

The server is currently pretty close to being unplayable. Not sure that beefing up the hardware will help, as it's possible the dev's are dealing with the limits of a code base written for a 10 year old, 32 bit environment. Seems like the only reasonable solution is to fire up a new PVP server and let people who want to start a new toon on it do so. Character moves would be too messy, and time consuming for a group that wouldn't get any compensation for all of the work it would take.

I for one would re-roll a level 1 toon on a new PVP server just to escape the lag bombs that plague my play time.

[Aslan]

Are you sure that a release of a new server makes people reroll when they are already lvl 30+, not to mention 60, when they have gold, guilds, gear, friends. Wouldnt that just attract a new playerbase and eventually bring back some people who quit before, like the PvE server did? Havent noticed any population drop with the release of the last server.

Economists out there, speak up.

I personally wouldnt reroll ever, however a server switch to a less dense environment, why not... I dont care if its blizzlike or not, this server was never blizzlike in the first place, not even close (not saying it isnt fucking awesome ).

[Iltháes]

Good post, it's not an issue of race (although some posters have unwisely expressed some racist views, probably due more to frustration than anything else) but a simple logistical issue. The issue is that there is a large portion of the playerbase, sometimes nearly half depending on the time of day, that cannot communicate with the rest. Despite consuming the same server resources as anyone else, they interact very little with the rest of the server. Having another server would ease the loads on both, even if the new server isn't region-locked, which would be infeasible anyway as most Chinese players are either overseas Chinese or use VPNs/proxies to connect.

My suggestion was, and remains: open a new PvP server, and cap both populations at a little more than half the current peak population. Keep content the same on both servers, and offer voluntary one way transfers from PvP1 to PvP2(they need better names than that tho). Current peak population is around 11k. Cap both servers at 6 or 7k each. The total number of players able to play at once is higher (12-14k), loads on both servers are lower, and the "peak fun" population is maintained where finding other players to interact and do content with is fast and easy at any level but every square centimeter of the map isn't crammed with 45 players. Plenty of people have expressed willingness to donate, some even quite significant amounts of money, for a new server.

I feel like the problem will mostly sort itself out after that as one of two things happens:
-Mostly Chinese players choose to move and the new server becomes the unofficial "Chinaserver" or mostly English speakers move and PvP1 becomes the same, or;
-The population equalizes and both servers still have a sizeable Chinese minority, though more manageable due to being not as large.

+1 I highly support this suggestion.

[Asphixia]

How about we get rid of the ability to have two clients logged in simultaneously. Would getting rid of all the AH, Profession, Bank alts be a more fitting solution than to alienate the server?

The argument of "They arent part of the community" is a pretty crap excuse. Its not like I interact with the server's playerbase (outside my guild). What makes my sort any better than the dreaded Chinese who dont interact with us either.

[Macalister]

I would pay 100 USD just so that I can play on this awesome server with no lag. I'm sure there are lots of others who would donate aswell.

The server is currently pretty close to being unplayable. Not sure that beefing up the hardware will help, as it's possible the dev's are dealing with the limits of a code base written for a 10 year old, 32 bit environment. Seems like the only reasonable solution is to fire up a new PVP server and let people who want to start a new toon on it do so.

Agree completely with this, not for the Chinese reason but because the playerbase is larger than it should be on one server alone. I started playing here again with 4 friends, 2 of them quit because the server would consistently lag out and disconnect us when doing dungeons during the few weeks we played.