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Fix > Reduce > Remove gold rewards from AV

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:22 am
by Aslan
Hello


I have a suggestion and I am asking for a nice discussion with pro and cons :). Saying it isnt blizzlike just because Nostalrius implemented it like that would make this whole foum section redundant so lets rather have a solid argumentation.

Suggestion:
-Either fix the gold reward for turn ins in AV (you kill a player, you loot him, you turn in the item for supposedly 20 silver according to the quest text, though it in fact rewards 40 silver!)
or
-Even better, reduce the reward to something between 5-10 silver to make it still worth looting the corpse but stop the gold farmers in BG's.
or
-Completely remove the gold rewards and let it be the rep only.

Benefit?
The AV's would still feature big clash games, there would still be a defence with direct pvp to slow the enemy factions progression. However it would be reasonable and controlled, since only the 5-10 people who actually have fun deffing would do it, all the others who do it for gold would eventually follow the game objectives. The enemy faction and your owns progression will be slowed but not completely blocked, therefore we wont be stuck in 2-10 hr but maybe 1-2 hr AV's. Its a means to an end to reduce the def from 25-40 man to 5-10 man. The gold farmers, frankly, dont belong into BG's.


Let me know what you think fellow productive minds
Cheers
Scar

Re: Fix > Reduce > Remove gold rewards from AV

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:56 pm
by Aunstic
So remove one major factor of the battleground to allow people to rush.

By your theory of time reduction, the land mines should also be gone too when they were added just to get the fucklong AVs back.

Re: Fix > Reduce > Remove gold rewards from AV

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:58 pm
by Simonich
I don't agree.

My suggestion however is making the NPC spawn event repeatable and also fix ground assault, so that there is progress forced eventually

Re: Fix > Reduce > Remove gold rewards from AV

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:20 pm
by Aslan
Nono its not about rushing. You are right that would require to remove the landmines too and I dont want that. (Maybe id prefer less, but I like the tougher environment)!

But people enter AV with the only goal to FARM GOLD which is wrong to me. Maybe it will change once its only fixed and rewards 20s instead of 40s, it would already be half the gold per hour...

After my theory, people would go for game objectives such as towers, graveyards, enemy general and so on. Making the game progressive and not stagnating. The pvp def part would still be there but for fun and not gold :). Same game, just one quest reward removed in order to change playstyles.

Re: Fix > Reduce > Remove gold rewards from AV

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:47 pm
by Brian
why would you adjust this,
i made 60g in one AV that took 1.5hour and gotten nice rep.
i love it rlly.
just farm the afk ppl at the gy's and loot them and wait for respawn, meney hk's meney golds. kk

Re: Fix > Reduce > Remove gold rewards from AV

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:50 pm
by Aslan
Aslan wrote:But people enter AV with the only goal to FARM GOLD which is wrong to me. Maybe it will change once its only fixed and rewards 20s instead of 40s, it would already be half the gold per hour...

Re: Fix > Reduce > Remove gold rewards from AV

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:14 pm
by Nano
The gold rewards from the quest turn-ins are Blizz-like values. It's not going to change. You have to accept when you join AV that some people are going to have other priorities than you.

Re: Fix > Reduce > Remove gold rewards from AV

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:30 pm
by Ghostly
So which one of the money rewards is Blizz-like? 20 silver stated on quest page, or 40 silver that player receives? You should make them match.

Re: Fix > Reduce > Remove gold rewards from AV

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 5:05 pm
by Stalk
Nano wrote:The gold rewards from the quest turn-ins are Blizz-like values. It's not going to change. You have to accept when you join AV that some people are going to have other priorities than you.


That's strange because when I look them up on Allakhazam they do not have any "coin" rewards.

http://web.archive.org/web/200511102257 ... quest=7402
Quest: Wanted: ORCS! (PvP) - Coin: 1g 80s

http://web.archive.org/web/200605262243 ... quest=7428
Quest: Wanted: MORE ORCS! (PvP) - Coin: (is not even listed as a category)

http://web.archive.org/web/200605262159 ... quest=7365
Quest: Staghelm's Requiem (PvP) - Coin: 1g 80s

http://web.archive.org/web/200511120336 ... quest=7425
Quest: Staghelm's Mojo Jamboree (PvP) - Coin: (non-existent)
First time reward is 1 gold 80 silvers and a great increase in faction.
Consequent rewards are just a little faction.


http://web.archive.org/web/200605262159 ... quest=7366
Quest: The Archbishop's Mercy (PvP) - Coin: 1g 80s

http://web.archive.org/web/200710310807 ... quest=7426
Quest: One Man's Love (PvP) - Coin: (no category yet again)

http://web.archive.org/web/200605262158 ... quest=7364
Quest: Gnomeregan Bounty (PvP) - Coin: 1g 80s

http://web.archive.org/web/200511102120 ... quest=7424
Quest: What the Hoof? (PvP) - Coin: (nothing)

Is there some secret source that you have to confirm all of these mysterious blizzard-like game values that no one else can seem to find or are these just more lies and assumptions about how you think the game should work?

Re: Fix > Reduce > Remove gold rewards from AV

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:24 pm
by Gazpy
Because they give MONEY instead of EXP like everyother quest does when you are max level. you get more gold.