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Allow multiboxing (It's blizzlike)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:05 am
by cyklon
As i read the FAQ, http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3, i saw that multiboxing will be forbidden on this server.
I would suggest to allow it as boxing is blizzlike, Blizzard never forbid PvE-multiboxing and still haven't, PvP is as i remember it, forbidden.

There is a few that multibox, far from everybody, and i doubt it will affect the server in that negative way you state in the FAQ.

It's only suggestion, but i think it would be awesome to allow it!

Re: Allow multiboxing (It's blizzlike)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:26 pm
by Envy
Of course they never did, it meant that you paid twice the price, why forbid it ?
Here, the matter is very different. You don't have to pay so you can multibox a lot. Which only a very few amount of people did back then (and there might be a lot here.)

I never quite understood the attractiveness of multiboxing anyway, nor did I ever cared. But don't expect to see it here. Unless they totally changed their mind.

Re: Allow multiboxing (It's blizzlike)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:59 pm
by cyklon
Envy wrote:Of course they never did, it meant that you paid twice the price, why forbid it ?
Here, the matter is very different. You don't have to pay so you can multibox a lot. Which only a very few amount of people did back then (and there might be a lot here.)

I never quite understood the attractiveness of multiboxing anyway, nor did I ever cared. But don't expect to see it here. Unless they totally changed their mind.


That's true, here you don't have to pay for multiple accounts.
In my opinion the attractiveness of multiboxing is the fun of succeeding doing it, and the boost of getting something done faster, as i for one matter don't have the time to sit hours and hours playing. Family, hobbies and other things takes time as well, but i still want to be able to compete for a raid spot with all the consumes necessary.

Re: Allow multiboxing (It's blizzlike)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:45 pm
by Switchblade
cyklon wrote: [...] and the boost of getting something done faster, as i for one matter don't have the time to sit hours and hours playing. Family, hobbies and other things takes time as well, but i still want to be able to compete for a raid spot with all the consumes necessary.


That's exactly why most people don't want multiboxing allowed here.

Re: Allow multiboxing (It's blizzlike)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:01 pm
by cyklon
Switchblade wrote:
cyklon wrote: [...] and the boost of getting something done faster, as i for one matter don't have the time to sit hours and hours playing. Family, hobbies and other things takes time as well, but i still want to be able to compete for a raid spot with all the consumes necessary.


That's exactly why most people don't want multiboxing allowed here.


Still don't see how getting something done faster is a problem. It's not that many that multibox and those that do, do it for the time they earn and/or the fun of doing it. I seriously doubt that it will ruin the economy by allowing it.
I will box either way, but without the allowing of boxing i have to run 1-5 clients and tab between them as that it not forbidden as i understand it.

Re: Allow multiboxing (It's blizzlike)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:34 pm
by Drain
Viper and Daemon made posts about this in an older thread:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=29

Nostalrius is wording this differently, but from what I gather, yes multiboxing will be allowed as long as you aren't using any third party programs to control, automate, or bot the characters. Alt tabbing, which is control of only 1 character at once, does not fall under this. This means the rules here will be similar to Blizzard's, although Blizzard didn't actually enforce theirs. We were left to assume that Blizzard liked the extra sub fees, since they allowed almost everything that violated their ToS. Or they'd just slap players on the wrist, who would promptly go right back to doing it. Whether Nostalrius will enforce its rules or not here remains to be seen. But players will inevitable come along and do things like this, and you'll see if they are kicked out or allowed to remain. Hackers will also come along, and its inevitable that they will find a way to bypass whatever prevention measures were meant to keep them out. You just have to see if they are dealt with, or allowed to remain on the server.

But even if you multi box legitimately, you can still violate other rules, such as PvP exploits. This is something to remember. It is not ok to farm yourself for free honor points or rig BG numbers so your side has an unfair advantage(ie 15vs14 or worse). On most private servers, you can very easily rig BGs in your favor using a second character. Small populations means the BG pops for both characters and ends up in the same match. You then alt tab often enough to keep the other guy in the match, doing nothing, so your primary character gets to fight on a bigger team. Assuming you want to farm up both, then they both get the benefit as you just trade which you play vs which you AFK. BGs are very easily determined by team sizes. Your win rate would sky rocket thanks to skewing every match to 10vs9 or 15vs14. These are problems that plague other private servers thanks to poor regulation from staffs that don't care about them.

Re: Allow multiboxing (It's blizzlike)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:52 pm
by cyklon
Drain wrote:But even if you multi box legitimately, you can still violate other rules, such as PvP exploits. This is something to remember. It is not ok to farm yourself for free honor points or rig BG numbers so your side has an unfair advantage(ie 15vs14 or worse). On most private servers, you can very easily rig BGs in your favor using a second character. Small populations means the BG pops for both characters and ends up in the same match. You then alt tab often enough to keep the other guy in the match, doing nothing, so your primary character gets to fight on a bigger team. Assuming you want to farm up both, then they both get the benefit as you just trade which you play vs which you AFK. BGs are very easily determined by team sizes. Your win rate would sky rocket thanks to skewing every match to 10vs9 or 15vs14. These are problems that plague other private servers thanks to poor regulation from staffs that don't care about them.


Multiboxing PvP in my opinion is never ok, i'm only talking about PvE. PvP boxing in any way should be ban ASAP.

Re: Allow multiboxing (It's blizzlike)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:09 pm
by Askental
These pvp abuses happened here too and indeed the rules were enforced, for example the current rank progression of the person doing it would be reset, etc.

Re: Allow multiboxing (It's blizzlike)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:49 am
by L4ZYB
To be clear.. Can you run 2 instances of the Game, and manually control both characters? No third party, no botting.. One human playing two instances of the game manually on one PC. Please let me know.

Re: Allow multiboxing (It's blizzlike)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:23 am
by Storfan
L4ZYB wrote:To be clear.. Can you run 2 instances of the Game, and manually control both characters? No third party, no botting.. One human playing two instances of the game manually on one PC. Please let me know.


Yes. You can run 2 clients at the same time, however only for enchanting/crafting/banking purposes. You may not "power-lvl" or run multiple chars on follow through a dungeon.