Spell Coefficients are off for warlocks

[trefer]

I do not understand how you can think spell power somehow does a roll between 0-85 for a bonus.

Could you provide us with actual information Setup from where you are getting your numbers from?
These numbers are from retail 2006 which has been tried and true since then. Theorycraft addon is exactly for these coefficient numbers.

[Keftenk]

Data taken from TheoryCraft addon for version 1.12.1.

DoT longer than 15 sec is calculated as 15sec duration.
Channeled or cast spell longer than 3.5sec is calculated as 3.5 cast spell.
(see rules above for explanation)

These coefficients are before talents and gear improvements!
Example talent bonus:
Shadow Word: Pain - 18 / 3 = 6 ticks. 100% bonus, 6 ticks = 16.66%/tick
2/2 improved sw:pain = adds 2 ticks. Bonus is the same. 8 ticks = 16.66%/tick.
8 ticks > 6 ticks = more damage done.

Example talent bonus 2
Fireball = 3.5sec cast = 100% bonus.
5/5 Improved Fireball = 3.0sec cast. Bonus is the same. 100% bonus.
3.0 sec cast is faster than 3.5 sec cast = faster fireball cast = more damage done.


MAGE

Frostbolt - 3/3.5*0.95 - 81.4%
Frost Nova - 1.5/3.5/3*0.95 - 13.57%
Cone of Cold - 1.5/3.5/3*0.95 - 13.57%
Blizzard - 3.5/3.5/3 - 33% - 4.125% per tick (8)
Arcane Explosion - 1.5/3.5/3 - 14.28%
Arcane Missiles - 3.5/3.5 - 100% - 20% per missile (5)
Fire Blast - 1.5/3.5 - 42.85%
Fireball - 3.5/3.5 - 100% (dot gets no bonus)
Pyroblast - 3.5/3.5 - 100% and 0.7 DoT - 70% - 17.5% per tick (4) (exception to the rules)
Scorch - 1.5/3.5 - 42.85%
Blast Wave - 1.5/3.5/3*0.95 - 13.57%
Flamestrike
Direct: (3/3.5)*(3/3.5) / (3/3.5 + 8/15) / 3 = 17.61%
DoT: (8/15)*(8/15) / (3/3.5 + 8/15) / 3 = 6.81% - 1,70% per tick (4)
Ice Barrier - 0.1 - 10%


WARLOCK

Shadowbolt - 3/3.5 - 85.71%
Soul Fire - 3.5/3.5 - 100%
Searing Pain - 1.5/3.5 - 42.85%
Immolate
Direct: (2/3.5)*(2/3.5) / (2/3.5 + 15/15) = 18.65%
DoT: (15/15)*(15/15) / (2/3.5 + 15/15) = 63.63% - 12.72% per tick (5)
Conflagrate - 1.5/3.5 - 42.85%
Rain of Fire - 3.5/3.5/3 - 33% - 8.25% per tick (4)
Hellfire - 3.5/3.5/3 - 33% - 2.2% per tick (15)
Corruption - 15/15 - 100% - 16.66% per tick (6)
Curse of Agony - 15/15 - 100% - 8.33 per tick (12)
Curse of Doom - 15/15 - 100%
Drain Soul - 15/15 - 100% - 20% per tick (5)
Siphon Life - 15/15/2 - 50% - 5% per tick (10)
Drain Life - 3.5/3.5/2 - 50% - 10% per tick (5)
Death Coil - 1.5/3.5/2 - 21.42%
Shadowburn - 1.5/3.5 - 42.85%


PRIEST

Prayer of Healing - 3/3.5/3 - 28.57%
Shadow Word: Pain - 15/15 - 100% - 16.67% per tick (6)
Mind Flay - 45%
Mind Blast - 1.5/3.5 - 42.85%
Mana Burn - 0%
Smite - 2.5/3.5 - 71.42%
Holy Fire
Direct: (3.5/3.5)*(3.5/3.5) / (3.5/3.5 + 10/15) = 59.99%
DoT: (10/15)*(10/15) / (3.5/3.5 + 10/15) = 26.66% - 5.33% per tick (5)
Holy Nova - 1.5/3.5/3/2 - 7.14%
Power Word: Shield - 0.1 - 10%
Desperate Prayer - 1.5/3.5 - 42.85%
Lesser Heal - 2.5/3.5 - 71.42%
Heal - 3/3.5 - 85.71%
Flash Heal - 1.5/3.5 - 42.85%
Greater Heal - 3/3.5 - 85.71%
Devouring Plague - 15/15/2 - 50% - 6.25% per tick (8)
Renew - 15/15 - 100% - 20% per tick (5)
Starshards - 3.5/3.5 - 100% - 16.66% per tick (6)
Touch of Weakness - 42.85%
Shadowguard - 100% - 33% per charge (3)

DRUID

Healing Touch - 3.5/3.5 - 100%
Tranquility - 3.5/3.5/3 - 33% - 6.6% per tick (5)
Rejuvenation - 12/15 - 80% - 20% per tick (4)
Regrowth
Direct: (2/3.5)*(2/3.5) / (2/3.5 + 15/15) = 18.65%
DoT: (15/15)*(15/15) / (2/3.5 + 15/15) = 63.63% (9,09% per tick) (7)
Starfire - 3.5/3.5 - 100%
Wrath - 2/3.5 - 57.14%
Insect Swarm - 12/15/0.95 - 76% - 12.66% per tick (6)
Entangling Roots - 1.5/3.5*0.95 - 40.71% - 4.52% per tick (9)
Moonfire
Direct: (1.5/3.5)*(1.5/3.5) / (1.5/3.5 + 12/15) = 14.95%
DoT: (12/15)*(12/15) / (1.5/3.5 + 12/15) = 52.09% - 13.02% per tick (4)
Hurricane - 3.5/3.5*0.95/3 - 31.66% - 3.16% per tick (10)


PALADIN

One-Handed Seal of Righteousness - 10% per hit
Two-Handed Seal of Righteousness - 12% per hit
Judgement of Righteousness - 50%
Seal of Command - 20% of spell damage, 29% of Holy damage
Judgement of Command - 43%
Consecration - 33%
Holy Shock - 1.5/3.5 - 42.85%
Hammer of Wrath - 1/3.5 - 28.57%
Exorcism - 1.5/3.5 - 42.85%
Holy Wrath - 2/3.5/3 - 19%
Holy Shield - 5% per Block
Holy Light - 2.5/3.5 - 71%
Flash of Light - 1.5/3.5 - 42.85%
Blessing of Sanctuary - 0% (link)


SHAMAN

Chain Lightning - 2.5/3.5 - 71.42%
Lightning Bolt - 3/3.5 - 85.71%
Lesser Healing Wave - 1.5/3.5 - 42.85%
Healing Wave - 3/3.5 - 85.71%
Chain Heal - 2.5/3.5 - 71.42%
Earth Shock - 1.5/3.5*0.95 - 40.71%
Flame Shock
Direct: (1.5/3.5)*(1.5/3.5) / (1.5/3.5 + 12/15) = 14.95%
DoT: (12/15)*(12/15) / (1.5/3.5 + 12/15) = 52.09% - 13.02% per tick (4)
Frost Shock - 1.5/3.5*0.95 - 40.71%
Lightning Shield - 100% (33% per tick) (3)
Flametongue Weapon - 10%
Frostbrand Weapon - 10%
Magma Totem - 32% -
Fire Nova Totem - 15%
Searing Totem - 8%
Healing Stream Totem - 65% - 2.16% per tick (30)


HUNTER

Arcane Shot - 1.5/3.5 - 42.85%
Volley - 1/3 - 33%
Serpent Sting - 15/15 - 100% - 20% per tick (5)
Mend Pet - 3.5/3.5 - 100% - 20% per tick (5)
Wyvern Sting - 100%
Immolation Trap: 0%
Explosive Trap: 0%


Attack Power coefficients

There are only 6 abilities that gain damage bonuses from your attack power. These are:
Eviscerate - 3% per combo point
Ferocious Bite - 3% per combo point
Garrote - 18% - 3% per tick (6)
Rake - 6% - 2% per tick (3)
Rip - 24% - 4% per tick (6)
Rupture - 24% - amount per tick and number of ticks based on CP

[nervous]

Warlock is what I'm knowledgeable about, bro.

I won't do any more hand-holding to try and explain theorycraft here because you're attempting to be rude to me.
But if you'd like to try and educate yourself, there's a wealth of information available on wowwiki. (Hint: try and understand the reason the number is expressed as 120+)

Have a nice evening.

Clearly not that knowledgeable, as the coefficients are based on untalented time / 15 for DoTs. I think I'll trust elitist jerks over wowwiki.

[Xylon666Darkstar]

In vanilla, not all spells received 100% coefficient of spellpower. Some are more, or less than 100% even.

[trefer]

Thank you for the data list for theorycraft Keftenk.

As you guys can clearly test for yourselves the damage is off on Nostalrius. These have to be fixed but it is not the end of the world if it does not get fixed asap. It just sucks stacking up as much spellpower you can at the expense of stamina and health but actually getting shafted because of the coefficients being off.

[Keftenk]

Really though. If it's wrong, make a ticket on the bugtracker. It seems that's the best way to get things fixed quickly and correctly. They have an entire team that checks the validity of the tickets, doing their own research, etc.

[trefer]

Will do just that. I just seem to be the only one that thinks the coefficients are off. I feel like I am in crazy land.

[Evertx]

Thank you for the data list for theorycraft Keftenk.

As you guys can clearly test for yourselves the damage is off on Nostalrius. These have to be fixed but it is not the end of the world if it does not get fixed asap. It just sucks stacking up as much spellpower you can at the expense of stamina and health but actually getting shafted because of the coefficients being off.

Indeed. As as long as they acknowledge the problem I'll be happy to wait for the solution. Let's have them do that.

[nervous]

Will do just that. I just seem to be the only one that thinks the coefficients are off. I feel like I am in crazy land.

They're definitely off, but I'm not interested in testing it on live servers and I don't have the 7 hours minimum required to apply for the testing team.

[Kha]

As for shadowbolt, 455-507 base means the average bolt does 480.
Add 100 spell power (85 of which is applied) and this number becomes 522 -- which is what you're receiving.

Why 522? Because you're getting UP TO 85 spell power per cast, meaning between 0 and 85, not a static 85. That means on average you're adding 42.5 to each cast. AKA working as intended.

Welcome to theorycraft.

Wrong, sit down and stop talking. You NEVER get the extra spellpower UP TO, the extra spellpower is added ALWAYS to the minimum base damage, and THE ONLY THING thats fluctuating is the base damage, period.

So a 455-507 bolt with 100 sp (85 final since its 85% at 3 sec cast untalented) is in fact a minimum 540 (455+85), with a maximum of 592 (507+85). Thats how it always was...