Why there are so few tanks - the grim truth.

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Re: Why there are so few tanks - the grim truth.

by Mdmadam » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:10 pm

Accidently read this as "Why there are so few ganks..." lol if only eh :P
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Re: Why there are so few tanks - the grim truth.

by umandez » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:13 pm

I used to tank with an enchance shammy back in vanilla works too sometimes :D
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Re: Why there are so few tanks - the grim truth.

by Doofoos » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:35 pm

Norjak wrote:The number of Bear tanks I've come across on this server who can actually tank effectively+hold agro on multiple mobs, I could count on one hand.

:o are you a horde side? if yes, i can show you the REAL DEEP RESTO tanking, lol :D
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Re: Why there are so few tanks - the grim truth.

by Stalk » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:53 pm

I would be tanking dungeons for profit if most of them were scripted well enough and dropped the correct level of BoE items but they just do not. No one wants to run BRD for fun when lvl 48 greens are dropping from senators in the throne room.
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Re: Why there are so few tanks - the grim truth.

by Robotron » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:43 pm

I've been saying this over and over for months: HURR DPS WARRIORS are the cancer of this server. Warrior is the most played class by a good margin, and yet tanks are the hardest role to fill.

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If you are a warrior, then realize you are tanks first and DPS second. You EARN the right to play as DPS. Why? Because this is Vanilla, and warriors are the only people who can tank, aside from the exceptionally rare Feral druid.

If you are a warrior and do not understand this, then delete your character and reroll a rogue.

Fuck.
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Re: Why there are so few tanks - the grim truth.

by Talryx » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:04 pm

Honestly being a tank requires the most maturity out of all the classes. It's not super easy despite what some say, and it isn't an instant-gratification class/role. Leveling a tank is less than thrilling. You die a shitload. Etc.

Shockingly there aren't too many mature, selfless players on here, so we have a shortage of good tanks.
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Re: Why there are so few tanks - the grim truth.

by Redcap » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:22 pm

We're talking about truth? Okay, here's some truth. A DPS in a 5 man instance group has one job that happens to have several important parts to it. Here they are.

a) let the tank be the only one pulling, excepting special circumstances when the tank wants you to pull for some around-the-corner positioning for them to be in the right place for.
b) let the tank get 2-3 auto attacks on their first target before you start attacking. That means you have to pause, and wait for like 5-6 full seconds. The healer is retarded if they hit the heal button before the tank has their first AoE threat move performed, but you are DPS, so don't worry about that.
c) don't use AoE damage moves until the first target is down to their last 1/3 health. By that time the tank has generated enough threat on the mob pack to hold them after you do it. Well, at least in reason.
d) don't be lazy about your gear or damage ability rotations. get stuff dead. if you are expecting the tank to have good gear and good skill to get the run over with, you are not allowed to be a scrub League of Legends player screaming 'carry meh!'

If this was a perfect world there would be PLENTY of tanks because the DPS wouldn't be shit and things would go smoothly. But the DPS players ARE shit in random groups, so cry more for tanks.

Robotron wrote:If you are a warrior and do not understand this, then delete your character and reroll a rogue.

Fuck.


Agreed.

And for the DPS that won't do their jobs, they should just GTFO and uninstall because they have the easiest job IN THE GAME.
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Re: Why there are so few tanks - the grim truth.

by JeeTee » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:45 pm

Do you want to know where the good tanks are? They are tanking guild runs because dealing with trash DPS over and over gets old really fast. Or they have already carried too many bad players, are burnt out and playing alts.

Even average tanks have no reason to join world chat or run pub groups, they have friends lists and play with those people almost exclusively.

I think there are many more dedicated tanks on this server than it seems, but they are selective of who they play with.(rightfully so)
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Re: Why there are so few tanks - the grim truth.

by Talryx » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:56 pm

Redcap and Jeetee are dead on about the DPS. I play DPS (my main is a lock) and I see this all the time. The tank pulls and before he even blinks I see another lock's DOTs all over the targets, or the hunter getting balls deep into a mob, etc - and this is happening like AS the tank is taking his first swing at the enemy.

It used to be common knowledge that you wait at least a few seconds before you start to bring on the DPS.

People need to chill the fuck out it's not A-D-D-craft.
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Re: Why there are so few tanks - the grim truth.

by Doofoos » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:03 pm

Redcap wrote:b) let the tank get 2-3 auto attacks on their first target before you start attacking. That means you have to pause, and wait for like 5-6 full seconds.
c) don't use AoE damage moves until the first target is down to their last 1/3 health. By that time the tank has generated enough threat on the mob pack to hold them after you do it. Well, at least in reason.
d) don't be lazy about your gear or damage ability rotations. get stuff dead.

If this was a perfect world there would be PLENTY of tanks because the DPS wouldn't be shit and things would go smoothly. But the DPS players ARE shit in random groups, so cry more for tanks.

Hah, it is a utopia. We are in 2015 brah, people never do this, even if tank ask them to.
And you have no idea how many times i was on 2-3 place in damagemeter, even as a restobear. Very frustrating :(
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