Official PVE Progression Thread

[keyl]

Ony's still up if you want that, I guess.

[gh05t00]

Everyone has had a chance to hit 60. Explain why people who level faster need to be held back by slow levelers?

Jesus Christ, you have the most primitive perspective. No, everyone has not had a chance to hit 60. A tiny, insignificant fraction of the playerbase is 60. Far less than 1%.

My goodness, some people are just incapable of reason.

I'm pretty sure that more than 1% is level 60.

[Larsen]

Because even people who have made a reasonable effort have not had a chance to hit 60 yet.

There was no such guarantee, that everyone who puts in a subjectively reasonable amount of effort should be 60 before MC is released, by your standards we wouldnt have MC uhh, for at least 6-12months. The Guarantee was that progression would be released in relation to the FIRST boss kills (with the race for Rag being ON from day ONE!), you still have 1-2months to catch up.
You lost all of the races, im sorry friend, i wish everyone could be a winner like on retail, perhaps if you go to suggestion forums and ask for an achievement system, then perhaps you could have something to work towards? i dont know, im real sorry friend, i dont like seeing people who are bad at games, its unfortunate.

You're completely fabricating things to make some bizarre point. By my standards? What are you basing this on? Tone down the fallacies a notch. You can't invent standards and apply them to me.

A reasonable amount of time to hit 60 is not 6-12 months. That's a ridiculous thing to say.

Even very dedicated players who put in many hours a day have not yet hit 60. Only one guild is there yet. Having MC available to be cleared at this point in time does nothing except delay competitive raiding until the next tier. What's good about that? Why facilitate that?

[Jackyy]

gz Grizz to rag down.


i am still grinding turtles in alterac, while u beat raggi

[Shiggs13]

Everyone has had a chance to hit 60. Explain why people who level faster need to be held back by slow levelers?

Jesus Christ, you have the most primitive perspective. No, everyone has not had a chance to hit 60. A tiny, insignificant fraction of the playerbase is 60. Far less than 1%.

My goodness, some people are just incapable of reason.

I don't see the issue with them and their realm first ragnaros kill IF they did it in a legit way. I don't think the people here understand what progression is. People that put in the work collectively as a guild get the realm firsts. Why should they have to wait for slower levelers. I don't understand your point at all.

Also, when Vanilla first came out, Ony and MC were released at the start. This is how it worked when WoW first came out.

[nervous]

What's good about that? Why facilitate that?

Because it's blizzlike.

#GOTTEM

[kayrn]

Everyone has had a chance to hit 60. Explain why people who level faster need to be held back by slow levelers?

It's not even a lvl 60 thing...

Even if they had 25+ people ONLY lvling to 60... and then

People ONLY farming gold to buy BiS AH pieces and transmutes...
People ONLY farming herbs for alchemy FR pots/consumables...
People ONLY farming arcane crystals for their Arcanite Reapers...

6+ groups of LBRS groups for UBRS keys...
3 different UBRS groups running consecutively...
Getting ALL perfect gear drops...

The list can go on and on... with tailoring, blacksmithing, etc

So we can talk about 'if's all day long. Is it doable? Possibly, maybe even probably, but logically speaking in the time-frame provided it doesn't add up. Any person with half a brain would see that, hence the skepticism. Given they've done it before (exploited), it only makes sense to doubt it, especially since Rag wasn't tested here and given they refuse to share any real data on the subject (logs, vids, streaming etc).

Any mongoloid can bang their chest and say they're better than everyone else because they put in the time. I don't doubt they did... but it doesn't add up in this short a time frame; unless they feel like proving finally they're 100% legit by sharing logs and real screenshots/videos.

[Zach]

Everyone has had a chance to hit 60. Explain why people who level faster need to be held back by slow levelers?

It's not even a lvl 60 thing...

Even if they had 25+ people ONLY lvling to 60... and then

People ONLY farming gold to buy BiS AH pieces and transmutes...
People ONLY farming herbs for alchemy FR pots/consumables...
People ONLY farming arcane crystals for their Arcanite Reapers...

6+ groups of LBRS groups for UBRS keys...
3 different UBRS groups running consecutively...
Getting ALL perfect gear drops...

The list can go on and on... with tailoring, blacksmithing, etc

So we can talk about 'if's all day long. Is it doable? Possibly, maybe even probably, but logically speaking in the time-frame provided it doesn't add up. Any person with half a brain would see that, hence the skepticism. Given they've done it before (exploited), it only makes sense to doubt it, especially since Rag wasn't tested here and given they refuse to share any real data on the subject (logs, vids, streaming etc).

Any mongoloid can bang their chest and say they're better than everyone else because they put in the time. I don't doubt they did... but it doesn't add up in this short a time frame; unless they feel like proving finally they're 100% legit by sharing logs and real screenshots/videos.

Are you implying we had full BiS, full consumables and arcanite reapers?

[Larsen]

What's good about that? Why facilitate that?

Because it's blizzlike.

#GOTTEM

World first Ragnaros was five months after WoW launched. The fact that MC was originally available on launch means nothing. It would be much more blizzlike to delay MC about a month so that more than a tiny fraction of players were even eligible to attempt it. Having MC cleared before there's even a second guild ready to attempt is not blizzlike, and is awful for the server's health.

[Zach]

What's good about that? Why facilitate that?

Because it's blizzlike.

#GOTTEM

World first Ragnaros was five months after WoW launched. The fact that MC was originally available on launch means nothing. It would be much more blizzlike to delay MC about a month so that more than a tiny fraction of players were even eligible to attempt it. Having MC cleared before there's even a second guild ready to attempt is not blizzlike, and is awful for the server's health.

It would be more blizzlike to do things differently than Blizzard did...?