Hmm some very good points Windycastle, if all of those things actually happen it will make Nostalrius more "progressive" than Kronos.
On your last point though, you can actually check the bug tracker and see the bug reports and the fixes they have implemented on an almost daily basis, it gives you a lot more accurate perception of the progress that Kronos has.
Nostalrius or Kronos
Re: Nostalrius or Kronos
Pre-nerf is more a marketing term than anything else.
pre-nerf AV means there are a lot more NPC's standing around. I don't see how making AV more of a pve instance makes it more interesting. If people want to run past eachother and rush eachother's base there is nothing you can do about it. It is more important to have a high population to sustain a 40 vs 40 pvp instance tbh.
The rank pvp gear is on Nostalrius has its prebuffed stats, that makes sense since only molten core is released.
In order to build a bridge between new lvl 60s and guilds raiding AQ40 a lot of items were buffed and added in patch 1.10 so people can reach the endgame easier.
You can look at the patch notes here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.10.0 . These are a MASSIVE amount of items that were changed/added and it is hard to backtrack to their previous stats and afaik nostalrius doesn't change this. If it would be changed, all these development efforts would be for nothing when aq40 is released. So Molten Core will be just as faceroll here. I pity the nostalgia seekers who dream of having 90 days between major domo and ragnaros kill as on retail.
And if you need a lot of news posts to look "efficient" I wonder why everyone is so excited for corecraft. Since 0 news and 0 testing sessions there. You can also fix bugs with a group of experienced testers instead of public sessions you know.
What I find very not "efficient" about nostalrius is that every topic in the suggestions sections is ignored by the staff. As if they will be held accountable for every statement they make there.
pre-nerf AV means there are a lot more NPC's standing around. I don't see how making AV more of a pve instance makes it more interesting. If people want to run past eachother and rush eachother's base there is nothing you can do about it. It is more important to have a high population to sustain a 40 vs 40 pvp instance tbh.
The rank pvp gear is on Nostalrius has its prebuffed stats, that makes sense since only molten core is released.
In order to build a bridge between new lvl 60s and guilds raiding AQ40 a lot of items were buffed and added in patch 1.10 so people can reach the endgame easier.
You can look at the patch notes here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.10.0 . These are a MASSIVE amount of items that were changed/added and it is hard to backtrack to their previous stats and afaik nostalrius doesn't change this. If it would be changed, all these development efforts would be for nothing when aq40 is released. So Molten Core will be just as faceroll here. I pity the nostalgia seekers who dream of having 90 days between major domo and ragnaros kill as on retail.
And if you need a lot of news posts to look "efficient" I wonder why everyone is so excited for corecraft. Since 0 news and 0 testing sessions there. You can also fix bugs with a group of experienced testers instead of public sessions you know.
What I find very not "efficient" about nostalrius is that every topic in the suggestions sections is ignored by the staff. As if they will be held accountable for every statement they make there.
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- sarkozy
- Private
Re: Nostalrius or Kronos
sarkozy wrote:And if you need a lot of news posts to look "efficient" I wonder why everyone is so excited for corecraft. Since 0 news and 0 testing sessions there. You can also fix bugs with a group of experienced testers instead of public sessions you know.
Didn't Corecraft just have a testing session yesterday? And one over a month ago?
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Keftenk
- Stone Guard
Re: Nostalrius or Kronos
Assuming that Kronos doesnt offer the posibility to test, I won't risk to be disapointed and realize that that was a waste of time to lvl up there after 2 days /played. (I'm not 15 y.o anymore and pexing isn't my cup of tea)
Whereas Nostalrius is offering us the possibility to know whats is going wrong before the release in order to work on it.
People who are interested by a x1 server know it's a hudge difference.
Furthermore, NR is showing their involvement and always communicate with efficiency.
When you plan to spend a lot of time, it's all about trust and "faith"
I will never buy a car without testing it
Whereas Nostalrius is offering us the possibility to know whats is going wrong before the release in order to work on it.
People who are interested by a x1 server know it's a hudge difference.
Furthermore, NR is showing their involvement and always communicate with efficiency.
When you plan to spend a lot of time, it's all about trust and "faith"
I will never buy a car without testing it
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Nyarko
- Sergeant
Re: Nostalrius or Kronos
sarkozy wrote:yes but they are closed sessions,
CoreCraft testing sessions are open. You can get an account on IRC ...
You can look at the patch notes here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.10.0 . These are a MASSIVE amount of items that were changed/added and it is hard to backtrack to their previous stats and afaik nostalrius doesn't change this
That would be amazing if they manage to do it ! <3
- Birdie
- Private
Re: Nostalrius or Kronos
After what ive seen during those beta tests, i have no impression that this server has been under development for 4 years. I ve been following this project for months, but i am very disappointed. Will choose whichever comes out first, but the quality will be a major role for me, kronos looks to me like its want to be tested more before releasing, they have more testers and the test realm is up.
...'Cause the players gonna play, play, play, play, play
And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate...
And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate...
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Avshar
- Senior Sergeant
Re: Nostalrius or Kronos
Birdie wrote:CoreCraft testing sessions are open. You can get an account on IRC ...
Yup, but how many people knew that? There were no official anouncements about it whatsoever.
- sarkozy
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Re: Nostalrius or Kronos
sarkozy wrote:Yup, but how many people knew that? There were no official anouncements about it whatsoever.
Apparently many, I remember one of those tests almost getting 1000 players.
- Cornholi
- Senior Sergeant
Re: Nostalrius or Kronos
all followers know it sarkozy, just check twitter.
difference is that nostalrius got the server tested by 400 active players who can speak of what they see.
when kronos give access to 15 outside players.... nothing, not even "sooo cool", that's so scary.
I have seen servers like kronos with one dev in the past, they all failed.
difference is that nostalrius got the server tested by 400 active players who can speak of what they see.
when kronos give access to 15 outside players.... nothing, not even "sooo cool", that's so scary.
I have seen servers like kronos with one dev in the past, they all failed.
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Murloc
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