Ionà Exploiting Flightmaster Kills in EPL

[Datruth]

The safespotting they "outlawed" is stuff like sitting on the roof in cenarion hold or in gadget. Places where the guards aggro to you, but they can't physically get to you.

"Engaging in combat whilst standing on a section of the world that neutralizes the ability of town guards to detect and/or engage you."
Shall we add "Inability to read and understand text properly" to your CV of mental disabilities?

I don't even get why you think those 2 things are different in the first place, when it's essentially the same.

The guards can detect and engage them if they get within range of them. You're missing the context of how it looks in game. If these guys attacking people off the flight path got in range of a guard they would die. If the people in tanaris got in range of a guard while on the roof they wouldn't die.

I can't tell if you are brain damaged or trolling so I'm gonna keep it short.
Go to LHC and stand at the safespot. Turn on "At War" with Argent Dawn and check the range to the nearest guards, there are obviously multiple guards within less than 30 yards range.
So the problem isn't the inability to engage part, it's the inability to detect part. And it is not due to range.

[Junkerd]

Ahh yes... Now you tell me how many pixels, a yard is in WoW?

[Datruth]

Ahh yes... Now you tell me how many pixels, a yard is in WoW?

Most offensive ranged abilities got a 30-35 yards max range. Hope that helps.

[Halloforum]

While I appreciate the pic, which is absolutely hilarious, I'm left thinking you didn't listen to what he said: namely, that you aren't in the aggro radius of any guards when you stand there in that spot. Now, I'm not saying he's correct, but its not entirely stupid (unless you think you should be attacked by guards when a hunter shoots someone who is mounted 40 yards from lhc and the mounted player runs into lhc).

I appreciate your appreciation of the pic, I thought it fit the situation. Now, I did read what he said, which is what led me to think that he might be an idiot. The Terms of Use are very clear about this, it makes no mention of having to be within range of guards, it makes no use of the term 'safespotting', it merely states that "Engaging in combat whilst standing on a section of the world that neutralizes the ability of town guards to detect and/or engage you." is not allowed.

[Conjure]

Killing players from max range isn't safe spotting. Safespotting is standing on a obstacle that evades the Guard from attacking them. If they move in closer, they will die. Why would a range attack face to face against such as a Warrior or Rogue?

Welcome to PvP, if you want the PvE. Change servers

[PanTheSatyr]

I love how all the PvPheads are trying to defend someone taking advantage of game mechanics to gank/kill other players. You're soooo adorable!

[Joydivision]

For the record I did contact a GM at some point asking about whether the LOS (or whatever it is) abuse at Light's Hope Chapel is considered safespotting and thus bannable, and the GM confirmed that yes it is.
Don't ask for proof, I don't fraps all my activity on a 10 year old video game.

The screenshots are not conclussive evidence of exploiting, and ofcourse if you ask a gm whether LOS abuse is of a bannable nature they will say yes. People are stupid to think that pokeing a few scrubs between ques is taking advantage of honor gains, when it is not. Iona is a nice guy and this shit-bound post does not shed good light on his character at all. Find something more productive to do OP because this is basically reaching 5 pages of pointless shit flinging.

[mozibake]

They they outlawed safespotting in the ToU like 5 months ago, so technically he got a case, but as you already know most of us don't really care too much about it.

The safespotting they "outlawed" is stuff like sitting on the roof in cenarion hold or in gadget. Places where the guards aggro to you, but they can't physically get to you.

"Engaging in combat whilst standing on a section of the world that neutralizes the ability of town guards to detect and/or engage you."
Shall we add "Inability to read and understand text properly" to your CV of mental disabilities?

I don't even get why you think those 2 things are different in the first place, when it's essentially the same.

If I kill someone outside ZF where Gadgetzan guards can't detect or engage me, is that safespotting?

[Killstick]

Well atm there are guards giving people a false feeling of safety. IMO they should either remove the guards or make this a (temp) bannable offense.

You can hardly compare this with how it was on Vanilla because if you try to "ged gud" and attack these guys 9/10 you are the one who will agro guards. As a warrior you can't charge them for example because you are put in combat at the place where your charge begins.

So this is in fact someone killing players who count on guards defending them, then they "ged gud" attack and they end up agroing the guards.

Also this place is just a bad overlap of undefended terrain. If this happend in Vanilla after Naxx (and wasn't bannable) I'm also sure not alot of people knew about this/did it. Its kind of the same as with DM N. If some people do it its OK. If everybody starts doing it its not.

If the guards were removed people would know its going to be a warzone and atleast you would be able to react. So pls stop this "i saw this in sum pvp vid" crap.

TLDR; pls remove the guards

[Bazinga]

I love how all the PvPheads are trying to defend someone taking advantage of game mechanics to gank/kill other players. You're soooo adorable!

why would horde need an advantage since alliance is afk at ST (or GM) all day long

btw pls just turn off pvp globally so ppl stop complain about pvp
oh and pls update to retail so ppl stop complain about vanilla things