Vote on /World's Future

[Aunstic]

This poll was created after a discussion with <GM>Kraft, suggesting I do something to rally the playerbase against the current /world channel policy. I am trying daily to establish further communication between myself and the staff.

Add this entire quote to the OP so we know that this is actually an effective poll rather than another person complaining like Ogtucker has done and has taken in his hands. If you noted that there is some hope in the GMs taking charge, then I wouldn't say "shut the fuck up" honestly.

Honestly, you should've behave like this to begin with.

It's hard to do with the endless bitching and spamming on more than 3 people because they disagree with the world shit and even complaints on how I thought the <GRIZZLY> moderation was better moderation than the shitfest we had. The protests that we had weren't nonviolent protests. They were actually verbally harming and rejected people from partaking in a global channel whether it was a password, moderator-only, join/leave spam, or other methods of disallowing communication through the channel. Jimmy is the only one on the Horde that can do some good since people always throw him the owner of world now because he's rational and he takes his time to ban people like Ogtucker and Kevibear's endless alts spamming the world chat after a justified ban.

If you show some initiative to get the channel fixed, respect comes. If you're complaining like the rest, you get the exact inverse.

[OGTUCKER117]

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what is love
baby dont hurt me
dont hurt me
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[konked]

Only people upset over this are the ones getting banned off the channel for spamming or flaming.

This is an assumption. I am not one of these people you describe. You are wrong.

I dunno, either way we look at this is gonna get complaints.

1. We make world a server channel everyone is gonna cry thats not blizzlike
2. We leave it as is and people are still gonna cry over a channel they don't need to join.

[iheartbenben]

It's hard to do with the endless bitching and spamming on more than 3 people because they disagree with the world shit and even complaints on how I thought the <GRIZZLY> moderation was better moderation than the shitfest we had. The protests that we had weren't nonviolent protests. They were actually verbally harming and rejected people from partaking in a global channel whether it was a password, moderator-only, join/leave spam, or other methods of disallowing communication through the channel. Jimmy is the only one on the Horde that can do some good since people always throw him the owner of world now because he's rational and he takes his time to ban people like Ogtucker and Kevibear's endless alts spamming the world chat after a justified ban.

If you show some initiative to get the channel fixed, respect comes. If you're complaining like the rest, you get the exact inverse.

I'm not going to respond to this or you anymore because we have reached the obvious conclusion of our discussion here.

I frankly do not care how or why you justify your actions. I've pointed out before you are justifying bad behavior.

Also, respect from you is something that is seemingly earned cheaply. I do not desire it. You may have it back.

Have a good day.

[Electric Wizard]

No moderation at all is the best way. Anarchy FTW.

[Aunstic]

It's hard to do with the endless bitching and spamming on more than 3 people because they disagree with the world shit and even complaints on how I thought the <GRIZZLY> moderation was better moderation than the shitfest we had. The protests that we had weren't nonviolent protests. They were actually verbally harming and rejected people from partaking in a global channel whether it was a password, moderator-only, join/leave spam, or other methods of disallowing communication through the channel. Jimmy is the only one on the Horde that can do some good since people always throw him the owner of world now because he's rational and he takes his time to ban people like Ogtucker and Kevibear's endless alts spamming the world chat after a justified ban.

If you show some initiative to get the channel fixed, respect comes. If you're complaining like the rest, you get the exact inverse.

I'm not going to respond to this or you anymore because we have reached the obvious conclusion of our discussion here.

I frankly do not care how or why you justify your actions. I've pointed out before you are justifying bad behavior.

Also, respect from you is something that is seemingly earned cheaply. I do not desire it. You may have it back.

Have a good day.

Right, be the bigger man here. If you felt this way, don't lead people on. You shouldn't have responded to my post.

[advurb]

[b][u]

Obviously it is, because players who don't mind the current system aren't wasting their time and effort voting in your poll. Only people who care (naturally, people who are annoyed with the current system) are even voting at all.

Your poll does not represent the people's opinion. Chat channels in WoW work with player moderation. You have a problem? Build a time machine and take it up with 2004 Blizzard.

This is a red herring. You are suggesting that there is a LARGE margin of error, so large that it isn't feasible. I guess you never learned statistics too good from that teachin' lady, did yah? What you are suggesting isn't even within the realm of reason.

Even if the margin of error was greater than FIFTY PERCENT, player moderation is STILL the least favored.

TL:DR Version : You're wrong.

There is a large margin of error. I'd say 90%, probably higher. Word salad won't get you out of facts.

[iheartbenben]

There is a large margin of error. I'd say 90%, probably higher. Word salad won't get you out of facts.

Show me the math on how you came to that "factual" figure, please.

I gave you an "even if" scenario of 50 percent, which is beyond generous, in order to give credulity to your statement so I can then disprove it. Even if it is 50 percent, and it is much lower, you are still wrong.

This entire response by you is devoid of any critical thought on your part, and I seriously doubt you could be so dense mentally as to not understand that a margin of error over 90 percent is impossibly high in this or any scenario.

The people are speaking against you, and you're trying to wiggle out of the obvious.

TL:DR - You are still wrong.

[advurb]

There is a large margin of error. I'd say 90%, probably higher. Word salad won't get you out of facts.

Show me the math on how you came to that "factual" figure, please.

I gave you an "even if" scenario of 50 percent, which is beyond generous, in order to give credulity to your statement so I can then disprove it. Even if it is 50 percent, and it is much lower, you are still wrong.

This entire response by you is devoid of any critical thought on your part, and I seriously doubt you could be so dense mentally as to not understand that a margin of error over 90 percent is impossibly high in this or any scenario.

The people are speaking against you, and you're trying to wiggle out of the obvious.

TL:DR - You are still wrong.

Then you need to provide a basis for your "even if" scenario being generous. WoW players are lazy. Basic common sense shows I am right. Please refrain from ad hominem attacks to accompany your arguments

[Raktae]

At what point does allowing the Proles to "vote" themselves into power over a private channel become something desired? They didn't make the channel, <GRIZZLY> did, and your feelings on the guild aside there's no reason that those who are just using their channel have any right to usurp them because their feelings are hurt. The same goes for Samsta (even if he is a faggot) and moderating the Alliance /world equivalent.

If you don't like how its run, either find an argument to convince those running it to change their policies, or make your own. If you've got the apparent numbers of people willing to produce GM rule over the channel then maybe you should do a little thinking and get all those other people to form their own version of /world where you can introduce your preferences for chatting onto them there.