Official PVE Progression Thread

[Envy]

And here is a link with our raid & one of the loots given to one of our members.
Because I don't think that a screenshot with the dead dragon would suffice. I've got that one too however, if you wish!
http://www.noelshack.com/2015-17-1429516930-azuphoe.png

[Lazermon]

With all due respect (you were present after all), I doubt any guild will get the credit for a world boss kill in a long time. The horde is (almost) working together for these kills, and as long as it remains so, there is no reason to credit any specific guild for the kill.

It would get a bit silly if for example GRIZZLY had been credited for the first kill just because a random member (who wasnt even in a raid) in our guild managed to get the final tag before it inevitably died. This week you managed to get the tag with azuregos at 2%, and while I have no issue with that, I still have a hard time justifying why that warrants crediting the kill to only one guild.

To be clear: im sure it was (and isn't) the intention of the thread creator to credit the kill to bobybbyaboab, its just a small note under the real killer: the horde.

[Envy]

I don't personally agree with you, even though it's true that most guilds of a same faction are working out together (even though we more or less competed yesterday) to kill a WB in the only purpose of not having it killed by the opposite faction, I still think that the guy that tags it should get the kill, thought so ever since your guy killed it.

Why, you might ask?
For the only reason that it is a choice the others make.
By having the mob not tagged, you make the choice of either helping or trying to reset it (as we all saw yesterday) and if you want to help a guild kill a particular outdoor boss, it's not 'their' fault, if you know what I mean. Neither is it their fault if you try to undermine them.

In the end I don't really care about a cross in a progression thread, it's not my choice to make & I simply want to express my point of view on the matter, after all, the one that gets the loots is the one that killed it, no matter how you look at it, that has always been how I perceived this, but everyone's perception is different, I know that.

As far as I'm concerned, Grizzly got the first kill & we got the second.

[DeeMarie]

<Phoenix> looted Azuregos yesterday!

Sounds better.

[Twizzerious]

As far as I'm concerned, Grizzly got the first kill & we got the second.

and as far as the author of this thread is concerned. Horde got the first and second kills. The boss would never ever have a dent in his health if it wasnt for the assistance of everyone on the field. Horde would never get the tag if it wasnt from the assistance from all the horde on the field pushing the alliance back. Believe what you want but these are the facts and if you dont believe it then why doesnt pheonix go ahead and try to get a kill by themselves. See if alliance allows that .

[Momoh]

Uhm first of all, nobody on the horde would've realised that <NOPE> was sneaking him under our noses if it wasn't for me stumbling while in Azshara during the time. As soon as i saw what was going on we gathered as much as we could, and also informed Cs and Sheeva from Dreamstate and you guys started to get some people going. Its a collective effort (as it should be when it comes to world bosses, especially a recent release one at that) and we got the tag at 2% since the alliance were trying to reset and get the tag desperately in the end (they also got the tag at 7% but it reset at 2% and we couldn't risk the alliance taking it)

There is no need for the salt, its just a world boss.

[Skogskvinnan]

http://imgur.com/pUUyCMq

Well played horde.

[Grim]

Uhm first of all, nobody on the horde would've realised that <NOPE> was sneaking him under our noses if it wasn't for me stumbling while in Azshara during the time. As soon as i saw what was going on we gathered as much as we could, and also informed Cs and Sheeva from Dreamstate and you guys started to get some people going. Its a collective effort (as it should be when it comes to world bosses, especially a recent release one at that) and we got the tag at 2% since the alliance were trying to reset and get the tag desperately in the end (they also got the tag at 7% but it reset at 2% and we couldn't risk the alliance taking it)

^ Correct. Also, what Lazermon and Twizz previously mentioned is spot on.

As for your claims Kutshi, you'll have to go long and far to actually accomplish something like that, especially considering I watched about ten players with <Phoenix> tag sitting on their mounts on the north edge, doing nothing but observing Azuregos going from ~90% to 10%. Multiple other players in our two raids confirmed the same thing.

[Cataclysm]

I don't personally agree with you, even though it's true that most guilds of a same faction are working out together (even though we more or less competed yesterday) to kill a WB in the only purpose of not having it killed by the opposite faction, I still think that the guy that tags it should get the kill, thought so ever since your guy killed it.

Why, you might ask?
For the only reason that it is a choice the others make.
By having the mob not tagged, you make the choice of either helping or trying to reset it (as we all saw yesterday) and if you want to help a guild kill a particular outdoor boss, it's not 'their' fault, if you know what I mean. Neither is it their fault if you try to undermine them.

In the end I don't really care about a cross in a progression thread, it's not my choice to make & I simply want to express my point of view on the matter, after all, the one that gets the loots is the one that killed it, no matter how you look at it, that has always been how I perceived this, but everyone's perception is different, I know that.

As far as I'm concerned, Grizzly got the first kill & we got the second.

you understand this puts a dangerous precedent regarding azuregos down the line? if more and more guilds decide to wait by the line until azu is low, by the end there wont be any guild engaging azuregos and everyone will just idle around until either enough people leave, or they get bored and go do something else.


my opinion that for a single guild to get progression on a world boss they have to be the vast majority in on the kill. obviously can't count a few straggling people helping out, but if there is 2 or more guilds there then the kill is not for one guild alone. simple as that.

[Gazpy]

does it mean Azu does not respawn randomly between 1(3) to 7 days? Makes it easy to camp/US can get it kinda all the time if it's respawning after midninght for EU on sunday.(monday)