Nostalrius is now officially a third world server.

[Celonius]

So the answer to Dish's question is yes.

I like your argument. Is like. WoW! Where is it?

I mean, whats the problem if the China population is high? Assuming this is true. because until I see data from the dev team saying that, I'm not going to believe the ideology paranoid of some users. Anyway, Until I see chinese speaking in the general chats, from me, there is no problem. Tell me, what is the problem?

The question was:
Aren't you generalizing Americans the same way you don't want Chinese to be generalized? Rarely

You responded with a tirade with anecdotal evidence about Americans eating up anti-Communist propaganda. Which means you're generalizing Americans the same way you don't want the Chinese to be generalized. Neither Dish or myself mentioned the server's Chinese population, cultural differences, or socioeconomic philosophies. Either there's a language barrier here, or you're too wrapped up in your point of view to understand the logical fallacy (which is ironic considering that's the fault you're pointing out in others).

Don't you think that in USA there are an anti-communist sentiment? As in this forum, by some users (I think is just a minority. Most of the players have no problem with chinese people) there is an anti-china feeling? Which I do not understand until they break some rules like speaking in chinese in general chats, having farming bots, etc.

And I'm asking to you again, related or not what you answered before, do you think is there a problem of having high chinese population on this server, again, assuming that this is true?

[xiaopingling]

Don't you think that in USA there are an anti-communist sentiment? As in this forum, by some users (I think is just a minority. Most of the players have no problem with chinese people) there is an anti-china feeling? Which I do not understand until they break some rules like speaking in chinese in general chats, having farming bots, etc.

And I'm asking to you again, related or not what you answered before, do you think is there a problem of having high chinese population on this server, again, assuming that this is true?

How in the hell do you get the impression that the reason people have an issue with the chinese community on nost is due to communism? Are you oblivious or just trolling?

Notice the total lack of bitching about eastern europeans? The fact is that every non-english speaking community either tries to integrate with the general population (russians) or is a tiny minority (spanish), with one exception (Chinese). You keep talking about how everyone you find and group with can speak English, could you tell us on an entirely related note what the population numbers in /who tend to float around at the times when you tend to play?

[Celonius]

Don't you think that in USA there are an anti-communist sentiment? As in this forum, by some users (I think is just a minority. Most of the players have no problem with chinese people) there is an anti-china feeling? Which I do not understand until they break some rules like speaking in chinese in general chats, having farming bots, etc.

And I'm asking to you again, related or not what you answered before, do you think is there a problem of having high chinese population on this server, again, assuming that this is true?

How in the hell do you get the impression that the reason people have an issue with the chinese community on nost is due to communism? Are you oblivious or just trolling?

Notice the total lack of bitching about eastern europeans? The fact is that every non-english speaking community either tries to integrate with the general population (russians) or is a tiny minority (spanish), with one exception (Chinese). You keep talking about how everyone you find and group with can speak English, could you tell us on an entirely related note what the population numbers in /who tend to float around at the times when you tend to play?

>or just trolling
>nick: xiaopingling

pick one

could you tell us on an entirely related note what the population numbers in /who tend to float around at the times when you tend to play?

I played all the different hours: morning, afternoon and night. So I saw all the differents numbers possible in Nost: Since 6k-7k to 12k-13k. And I had no problems with no one about language barrier or whatever. Indeed, I talked with a Chinese guy, very nice person, and he had better english than some of the natives. We were doing some quests, he played very well and we talked about chinese food. We had such a great time playing together

I think this is a issue about discrimination, like happens in real life. And it is know that the internet people, due to the fact of his anonymity, tends to be disrespectfully and discriminatory.

So yes, is about ideology. I mean, it is obvious than ideology and politic problems are main topic in general chats. Yestrday I was reading a political discussion about the refugees crisis in Europe, and this discussion started because someone said he belongs to an Arab country. The discussion started in that point, and it was not necessary too many minutes until I see the first racists comments. Let's not to pretend that ideology and politics does not affect us even while we are playing a videogame, because yes. And China is main problem and topic in some countries due his growth as a nation.

Also, eastern communities are not very loved by some people. People from Rusia, you know. So, why some communities are more loved than another? Do you think that Russians are more disrespectful than europeans? Or maybe is just a political an ideology issue?

[xiaopingling]

>or just trolling
>nick: xiaopingling

pick one

/who xiao. I'm just trying to fit in with the majority here

I played all the different hours: morning, afternoon and night. So I saw all the differents numbers possible in Nost: Since 6k to 13k. And I had no problems with no one about language barrier or whatever. Indeed, I talked with a Chinese guy, very nice person, and he had better english than most of the natives.

this is not possible. If you try to level during china hours, you will encounter 20-70% players who don't speak english depending on zone and chance. I challenge anybody to back you up on that not being the case.

I think this is a issue about discrimination, like happens in real life. And it is know that the internet people, due for the fact of his anonymity, tends to be disrespectfully and discriminatory.

Is discrimination making it unpleasant to group with people, when 4/5 people in the party type blank spaces in chat? Is it discrimination that causes lag and server instability? Does discrimination cockblock people from questing 8+ hours per day due to insane crowding and competition for mobs? Does discrimination make soloq BG's a complete joke, where half the raid can't undersand the other half?

[Celonius]

>or just trolling
>nick: xiaopingling

pick one

/who xiao. I'm just trying to fit in with the majority here

I played all the different hours: morning, afternoon and night. So I saw all the differents numbers possible in Nost: Since 6k to 13k. And I had no problems with no one about language barrier or whatever. Indeed, I talked with a Chinese guy, very nice person, and he had better english than most of the natives.

this is not possible. If you try to level during china hours, you will encounter 20-70% players who don't speak english depending on zone and chance. I challenge anybody to back you up on that not being the case.

I think this is a issue about discrimination, like happens in real life. And it is know that the internet people, due for the fact of his anonymity, tends to be disrespectfully and discriminatory.

Is discrimination making it unpleasant to group with people, when 4/5 people in the party type blank spaces in chat? Is it discrimination that causes lag and server instability? Does discrimination cockblock people from questing 8+ hours per day due to insane crowding and competition for mobs? Does discrimination make soloq BG's a complete joke, where half the raid can't undersand the other half?

-What majority? I Only see few people on the forums. As always, the minorities are who make more noise. The rest of the people do not enter to the forums to talk about this issues, they just play and have fun. So, until you do not give to me some data that proves this majority, I'm not going to believe you.

-It is possible. If you had bad experiences, I'm sorry, shit happens. But do not generalize and of course do not say what experiences I lived and what not. I know better than you, what kind of social experiences I lived on this server.

-I only saw 1 case when I saw someone who typed blank spaces (Until now I did not know that this means he is writing in chinese keyboard).
Is it discrimination that causes lag and server instability?
Again. Have you proves about this lag and server instability comes from the chinese population? Have you ever tried to think that maybe is because this is a private server? And like all private servers, the lag issues are normal? Better give donations to the devs in order to get fixed instead of being discriminatory on the internet forums.
Does discrimination cockblock people from questing 8+ hours per day due to insane crowding and competition for mobs?
The competition for mobs is not by chinese people, is just because there are high population. Also, the competition for mob was something that I saw also in official servers, and is just takes some minutes in get solved and kill your mobs. You can make group with the people like I do in order to count the mobs. Socialize, man.

Does discrimination make soloq BG's a complete joke, where half the raid can't undersand the other half?

I made BGs. No problem with that. Just like the official vanilla servers. Is about luck. You can have a good team, who plays well or you can have a bunch of guys who only care about themselves.


So yes, you are being discriminatory, and, it is very similar to that people who says that the economic problems are because of inmigrants. I studied economics and normally, these people has 0 idea about economics and they are wrong. Of course economic probles does not comes from inmigrants. This is just a political strategy of some parties made in order to get votes.

[Pottu]

The trolling has reached industrial level when both Communism and Hitler cards have been played.