Is Griefing Acceptable?

[Kahmi]

So today I'm in Ironforge when I see player Runningwolf in LFG looking for dps for Mara, specifically stating the the Blackstone Ring was open for grabs (everyone in the party had it or didn't need it). I didn't have my hopes too high but nonetheless I was excited that I was guaranteed to get it if it so happens to drop.

After some time we start the dungeon and everything is going smooth until suddenly player Runningwolf (a hunter) is out of arrows and he asks me for some. Without a second thought I open trade, throw in some arrows, and wait for him to accept. What I get was a response of "EW" due to the fact that I wasn't using the highest rank arrows for my level.

He refuses the trade and goes on a rant out of seemingly no where about how I'm apparently some entitled cunt and so on. His spontaneous rant continues for awhile and finally he takes some of my arrows.

We get to Princess Theradras (with player Runningwolf still making comments to me about the "arrow incident") and down her with little trouble. I was so stoked when I saw Blackstone Ring drop and needed it thinking I've got it. Then Runningwolf needs it, a unique ring that he already has, that hes already expressed he already has and doesn't need. The guy is trolling me hard at this point.

When I express intent to report his actions his whole attitude shifts and he starts acting like he doesn't know what he did. I opened a ticket but I'm wondering if it will really do any good.

I have 3 screenshots of this incident. One of the player needing the ring with my mouse over him already having one equipped. One of Him basically admitting to griefing me and not caring. And finally, one of another player in the group offing me gold because he felt bad about Runningwolf griefing me out of the ring that he cannot use.

Will anything come of this? Are people really able to openly grief people like this without repercussion?

-Kahmi

[Wrathran]

No, Griefing is not acceptable but it's not against the rules and the Game Masters will not intervene.

C. Gameplay
Nostalrius Begins recognizes all valid play styles to be part of the game, and not harassment

(valid = everyhting except hacks and botting etc)

D. Griefing
Players can interact in a variety of ways, not all of them constructive. You may encounter players that steal resource nodes, chests, items, .... Nostalrius staff will not intervene in these situations as the community may take measures concerning these players

ToU: https://en.nostalrius.org/terms-of-use

The ONLY time a Game Master will help with loot is when it's epic raidloot that got lost due to a servercrash. All other situations must be handled by the community.

Are people really able to openly grief people like this without repercussion?

What you can do is make a post in the pvp or pve forum with a ninja alert and attach screenshoots where you can see that the player needed on an unique item when he already had it. That way you can get some satisfaction knowing that some day when he apply for a guild this info is posted on the forum forever for everyone to see that he is not trustworthy.

[Kahmi]

Thank you so much for your quick and constructive response, Wrathran. I will take your advice and warn people over in the pvp forums about this guy.

-Kahmi

[Robotron]

Remember when posting about toxic users: Unless you can provide clear proof, don't post. Otherwise, it's slander.

[Kahmi]

Valid point, Robotron. I'll make sure to provide links to screenshots when I post my draft I've got going.

[Zenn3k]

So today I'm in Ironforge when I see player Runningwolf in LFG looking for dps for Mara, specifically stating the the Blackstone Ring was open for grabs (everyone in the party had it or didn't need it). I didn't have my hopes too high but nonetheless I was excited that I was guaranteed to get it if it so happens to drop.

After some time we start the dungeon and everything is going smooth until suddenly player Runningwolf (a hunter) is out of arrows and he asks me for some. Without a second thought I open trade, throw in some arrows, and wait for him to accept. What I get was a response of "EW" due to the fact that I wasn't using the highest rank arrows for my level.

He refuses the trade and goes on a rant out of seemingly no where about how I'm apparently some entitled cunt and so on. His spontaneous rant continues for awhile and finally he takes some of my arrows.

We get to Princess Theradras (with player Runningwolf still making comments to me about the "arrow incident") and down her with little trouble. I was so stoked when I saw Blackstone Ring drop and needed it thinking I've got it. Then Runningwolf needs it, a unique ring that he already has, that hes already expressed he already has and doesn't need. The guy is trolling me hard at this point.

When I express intent to report his actions his whole attitude shifts and he starts acting like he doesn't know what he did. I opened a ticket but I'm wondering if it will really do any good.

I have 3 screenshots of this incident. One of the player needing the ring with my mouse over him already having one equipped. One of Him basically admitting to griefing me and not caring. And finally, one of another player in the group offing me gold because he felt bad about Runningwolf griefing me out of the ring that he cannot use.

Will anything come of this? Are people really able to openly grief people like this without repercussion?

-Kahmi

Why didn't you just kick him out? Not like its hard to replace DPS. Jerks have to learn the consequence for being a jerk is a party kick and having to find another whole group all over again (which isn't easy for DPS).

[Datruth]

If he already had the ring he can't have another one, not even in his bag. Why didn't you just loot it?