Flip side of the coin: About xenophobia, lag and love

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Re: Flip side of the coin: About xenophobia, lag and love

by Tenderman » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:12 pm

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Re: Flip side of the coin: About xenophobia, lag and love

by anterozz » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:18 pm

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Re: Flip side of the coin: About xenophobia, lag and love

by Novin » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:29 pm

Goffz wrote:i am chinese and let me tell you, being chinese is actually a great thing. we have beautiful people and we have ugly people. just like any race. I for 1 am a great person, have great friends, and i take care of every one that is in my life and i am glad to do it, and for that i have people that love me around me. also, chinese parents are one of the best parents you can have. sometimes they can be really strict, but they will take care of you no matter what, and they will buy you what ever it is that you need. as long as your not a selfish ****head. Also, we all have great jobs, lots of money and a family that we all love and take care off.



Noone is telling you otherwise. People are not attacking chinese on this realm on the basis of their IRL variables.

The issue is that a significant subgroup refuses to speak in english or to participate. It's clear you speak english well. Please talk to your community on chinese forums how to solve the language issue.

Also china is a not a race.

There are no races within homo sapiens sapiens.
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Re: Flip side of the coin: About xenophobia, lag and love

by Wrathran » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:36 pm

There are no races within homo sapiens sapiens.


"The term race refers to the concept of dividing people into populations or groups on the basis of various sets of physical characteristics (which usually result from genetic ancestry)"

But I don't think this is a race issue but an xeno-issue.
(Xenophobia is the "fear" of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange)

Edit: Underline the word "concept".
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Re: Flip side of the coin: About xenophobia, lag and love

by Novin » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:44 pm

Wrathran wrote:
There are no races within homo sapiens sapiens.


"The term race refers to the concept of dividing people into populations or groups on the basis of various sets of physical characteristics (which usually result from genetic ancestry)"

But I don't think this is a race issue but an xeno-issue.


I can quote from wiki too and let others decide. Yay.

"While some researchers sometimes use the concept of race to make distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, others in the scientific community suggest that the idea of race often is used in a naive or simplistic way, and argue that, among humans, race has no taxonomic significance by pointing out that all living humans belong to the same species, Homo sapiens, and subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens.

Since the second half of the 20th century, the associations of race with the ideologies and theories that grew out of the work of 19th-century anthropologists and physiologists has led to the use of the word race itself becoming problematic. Although still used in general contexts, race has often been replaced by other words which are less ambiguous and emotionally charged, such as populations, people(s), ethnic groups, or communities, depending on context."

I aggree tho, it's not a race issue at all.
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Re: Flip side of the coin: About xenophobia, lag and love

by Requake » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:47 pm

As long as Justforfight doesnt ninja my Eyes of Saffras im fine with our eastern counterparts.
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Re: Flip side of the coin: About xenophobia, lag and love

by Lifealert » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:13 pm

It has to do with their culture in an online environment and not race. People on the left always make arguments based on race.
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Re: Flip side of the coin: About xenophobia, lag and love

by Zenn3k » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:32 pm

You see gold selling spam in every city at all times of the day, all day long, to call it a 0.01% minority of a minority is flat out WRONG. Do I think ALL chinese players are gold selling farmers? No, not really, but I feel like a 30-50% is not an unfair estimate. It takes a LOT of characters to make hundreds of gold per hour to sell to players, thats a LOT of lag.

As far as "not wanting to play with others because of the hate"...umm, IDGAF? I can't communicate with you anyway, you can't speak english, and you ninja loot items. If I find out a group member has a more than decent chance to be Chinese, I'll refuse to go (and I'm the tank, so I have that luxury) or wait for that person to be replaced. Chinese Ninja stole from me last night even. So frankly, stay with your fellow chinese, I and most of the rest of us don't wanna group with your stealing asses anyway.
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Re: Flip side of the coin: About xenophobia, lag and love

by Wrathran » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:36 pm

The problem with the word racism is that it means different things for different people. Racism and for example the word democracy is a highly Contested term. It can mean any one of a variety of beliefs and practices (DPRK comes to mind)

Maybe a better word would be bigotry here on Nostalrius?

In the end it's just words to describe people who see one group of humans as a problem. That's my opinion.
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Re: Flip side of the coin: About xenophobia, lag and love

by Zenn3k » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:41 pm

I just don't understand why the devs who are apparently against gold selling, but allow the people who are farming and selling to keep playing...I really don't get it.

Should I buy gold? You don't remove the sellers from the server, so am I suppose to make the conclusion that selling and buying gold is perfectly okay thing to do? Thats the message you send when you allow the gold sellers to remain and make the experience worse for everyone else. Why should i struggle to make gold and level up when you allow gold selling to happen?
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