Chinese people not talking english

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Re: Chinese people not talking english

by Jacksson » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:37 am

I've been warned for not speaking english in /s in Stormwind by Pottu himself.
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Re: Chinese people not talking english

by Robotron » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:49 am

Yogdhir wrote:
English, english, and english. No other language shall be allowed on forum and public channels. It's an important rule to us, and we'll be very attentive to the behaviour of our players regarding this rule.


Public channels. They're not going to ban people for speaking a different language in party or /say, nor should they.

Hmmm, you seemed to have missed the header of what you quoted:

What is the official language on the server?

Now reference my post:

Robotron wrote:The server's one and only official language is English, so yes, yes I can.
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Re: Chinese people not talking english

by Uzephi » Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:50 am

Any public channel, General, Trade, defense channels, /world, /say, /lfg, etc all have to be English. If they don't then it is an infraction. party, raid, etc are technically private channels, so that doesn't have language restrictions.
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Re: Chinese people not talking english

by Yogdhir » Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:22 am

Robotron wrote:
Yogdhir wrote:
English, english, and english. No other language shall be allowed on forum and public channels. It's an important rule to us, and we'll be very attentive to the behaviour of our players regarding this rule.


Public channels. They're not going to ban people for speaking a different language in party or /say, nor should they.

Hmmm, you seemed to have missed the header of what you quoted:

What is the official language on the server?

Now reference my post:

Robotron wrote:The server's one and only official language is English, so yes, yes I can.


My point is they have no need or obligation to learn english to play here, no matter the server's official language. They can speak their language within their community and remain in their social bubble without breaking any rules.
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Re: Chinese people not talking english

by Slo » Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:15 am

The thing that makes vanilla wow so great is the community aspect of it, amongst others. Not being able to talk to a fellow player because of a language barrier is very detrimental to the overall experience, for anyone.

However it is not possible to simply enforce the non-english speaking people to speak english. This is why retail wow had different language realms as well. This is not a direction that Nostalrius has taken though.

I feel like at this point in time we as the players have to accept that there will be a chinese subpopulation which does not speak english, and as this server becomes bigger, there will be more. There is already a german one.
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Re: Chinese people not talking english

by akramo58 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:37 am

Yogdhir wrote:
Robotron wrote:
konked wrote:You can't really expect them to learn another language just to play here...

The server's one and only official language is English, so yes, yes I can.


From the Nostalrius FAQ:

English, english, and english. No other language shall be allowed on forum and public channels. It's an important rule to us, and we'll be very attentive to the behaviour of our players regarding this rule.


Public channels. They're not going to ban people for speaking a different language in party or /say, nor should they.

Well that's too damn bad, because that's the rules.
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Re: Chinese people not talking english

by Heavenscape » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:08 pm

Slo wrote:The thing that makes vanilla wow so great is the community aspect of it, amongst others. Not being able to talk to a fellow player because of a language barrier is very detrimental to the overall experience, for anyone.

However it is not possible to simply enforce the non-english speaking people to speak english. This is why retail wow had different language realms as well. This is not a direction that Nostalrius has taken though.

I feel like at this point in time we as the players have to accept that there will be a chinese subpopulation which does not speak english, and as this server becomes bigger, there will be more. There is already a german one.

Well, the Chinese are not limited to their own cliques. When solo queueing, you have no choice who you get into a BG with - and if half of your team speaks with empty messages, the outcome of the match is less than auspicious. Not only you can't interact with them, many of them are also complete trash as far as skill is concerned.

You also stumble on them while questing and sometimes it's inevitable that you group up. Some can use simple English to allow some sort of basic communication, some will use translators, but others will remain fully uncommunicative. Really kills the spirit.

With a huge influx of players, the server becomes progressively more and more unstable. Lag is omnipresent, 2 sec delay does not quite facilitate PvP, which is the main focus of the server (sort of ironic). But that's not the worst part. Economy suffers due to overpopulation - see insane herb prices. Hacking, stealing and spamming is everywhere, nobody is safe.

Nostalrius dev team does not handle it very well. While stability issues were fixed, the server improvements don't keep up with the increasing lag. Even though dynamic node respawns were implemented, the prices still kept growing (130g for black lotus nowadays, it's really ridiculous). There are no actions to discourage people from buying gold, which would effectively reduce the demand and discourage farmers and hackers. Given the scale of the problem, it would even be understandable to include a red message shown in chat after logging in, warning about the dangers of buying gold - not only inexorable ban, but also supporting scammers and spammers.

That's the problem - the ever-growing China bubble brings nothing good to the table and is only detrimental to the quality of the intended audience, the English-speaking people. Given how fast the Chinese community grows, we may eventually find ourselves overwhelmed. Is Nostalrius CN what you want?
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Re: Chinese people not talking english

by Sauska » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:26 pm

I find it odd that Nostalrius allows access from other clients than the one on their website. I never saw that before. Who knows what malware other clients may contain.
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Re: Chinese people not talking english

by konked » Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:29 pm

Jesus the chinese hate on this server is bad, you guys act like they're the scum of the earth.

Might as well start the chinese version of the KKK and start lynching them, this is actual racism lol.

Sauska wrote:I find it odd that Nostalrius allows access from other clients than the one on their website. I never saw that before. Who knows what malware other clients may contain.


Only difference between the clients is language...
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