Getting banned for herbing

[Glenzig]

FYI people who got less than a fixed threshold never got the ban

Cool. I've been trying to get this information. What are you basing this statement on? What was the threshold? How was it calculated?

I'm pretty sure he's basing it on his opinion of how the bans have been handled so far.

[hellvik]

FYI people who got less than a fixed threshold never got the ban

Cool. I've been trying to get this information. What are you basing this statement on? What was the threshold? How was it calculated?

I'm pretty sure he's basing it on his opinion of how the bans have been handled so far.

not on my opinion my friend one of the GMs told me that about a friend case.

Greetings,

I'm limited in what I can say so I'll keep it short.

Players that were banned hit a threshold that in no way could have been an accidental mistake, it was clear abuse of a bug. Deleting the exploited items prior to being banned without GM intervention is a requirement to have an appeal reviewed. That alone doesn't mean that an account will be unbanned.

If you have not violated any rules then you won't be banned. We don't just ban for no reason.

Regards,
GM Team.

but then again the TOU stats the following:

Nostalrius Begins reserves the right, in its sole and absolute discretion, to increase a sanction, suspend or terminate your use of the service at any time, for any reason or for no reason, with or without prior notice to you.

check it : https://en.nostalrius.org/terms-of-use

also I would like to add that people who hit different nods still got the ban hammer and their cases are now under review.

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[hellvik]

FYI people who got less than a fixed threshold never got the ban so people who picked up expensive herbs never got the ban and for others who keep trying to find a normal nod still got ban banning people for low costing items which I think is a total BS. Also it is unfair for some people who got the ban hammer even though they stopped way before any system massage and opened tickets to report the bug. also in many cases it seemed like item value didn't have an effect on the ban decision and nost staff said the ban wave took place to keep the server economy from crashing hmmmm well what is the reason for the price drop in black lotus from 60g to 40g on horde side.

for example I myself when to wintersprieng before the restart hoping to gather some black lotus when the server got back up I got the first one and was walking away when it respawn in the same spot so I went for it agin and when it didn't despawn I asked my friend on TS is that normal since it was my first time getting a black lotus and he told me that he was having the same bug when he was mining but he stopped and opened a ticket and advised me to do the same to report the but shortly after that the system massage came and we both logged off since I got back on he was ban and I was greeted by a GM asking me if still have the items and told me to keep the first one I picked and destroy the rest which I got the chance to do.

Why is that BS? They had to make some kind of threshold for them to determine if it was intentionally abused by someone.
I highly doubt anyone was thinking "Whoops this shit is clearly bugged, I better go use my bug-abuse quota on some expensive herbs instead"

Why do you think it's unfair that people who stopped before the system message still got banned? so what you're saying is people are innocent untill someone reminds them what they're doing is illegal? Imagine if we applied that logic to the real world. Ignorance isn't an excuse m8.

Btw, if you paid attention you would know the price drop is mostly linked with the new dynamic respawn system.

not really tbh I paid attention to the prices they dropped slowly when the dynamic respawn but the price drop 20 gold in a matter of 2 days after the bug and if you know the dynamic respawn was there before the bug.

[Tinkertown]

Greetings,

I'm limited in what I can say so I'll keep it short.

Players that were banned hit a threshold that in no way could have been an accidental mistake, it was clear abuse of a bug. Deleting the exploited items prior to being banned without GM intervention is a requirement to have an appeal reviewed. That alone doesn't mean that an account will be unbanned.

If you have not violated any rules then you won't be banned. We don't just ban for no reason.

Regards,
GM Team.

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also I would like to add that people who hit different nods still got the ban hammer and their cases are now under review.

This is very informative. Thanks a lot! The support forum is very spammed atm, and I missed this green post because of it. (In fact I cannot even find it now with the search feature. I just find your quote of it. Weird. Was it deleted? EDIT: Ok, it was a pm )

May I trouble you for a link to a thread discussing the "people who hit different nodes" issue? While it does seem like playing with fire to mine/herb with an active bug it could be interesting nonetheless. (I couldn't find any open topic discussing it in the first 10 pages of Account Issues. Did I miss it? Is it deeper in? Is it somewhere else?)

[hellvik]

This is very informative. Thanks a lot! The support forum is very spammed atm, and I missed this green post because of it.

May I trouble you for a link to a thread discussing the "people who hit different nodes" issue? While it does seem like playing with fire to mine/herb with an active bug it could be interesting nonetheless.

first you are vary welcome and this was a PM from the GM I don't know why they don't post it since it can help clear things out for many people as for picking different nods I have read so many threads about this bug I really don't know what is real what is just made up any more but even though giving people who kept herring/mining while waiting for gm response they get a chance for a review and the people who got 20-30 ores and waited for a gm response and STOPED farming as soon as they opened a ticket never got a chance for a review, only difference is deleting the items. and this whole ban wave was to protect the servers economy from crashing as what the GMs keep saying. so in the end lets wait and see what is the outcome of the reviews and see how fair it was because some cases that got approved for review was just plain ABUSE!

[Tinkertown]

Yeah, my problem with this as far as I do have a problem with it isn't with the obvious exploiters being banned, nor with the massive banwave as I get that stopping as much herbs as possible from reaching circulation was probably warranted here. (Even if there were other measures that also might have helped that they didn't employ/had the tools to employ.)

My problem lies only with the fact that the seemingly non-negotiable conditions for even having an appeal looked at obviously excludes conduct that does not warrant an upheld permanent ban.

[Glenzig]

FYI people who got less than a fixed threshold never got the ban

Cool. I've been trying to get this information. What are you basing this statement on? What was the threshold? How was it calculated?

I'm pretty sure he's basing it on his opinion of how the bans have been handled so far.

not on my opinion my friend one of the GMs told me that about a friend case.

Greetings,

I'm limited in what I can say so I'll keep it short.

Players that were banned hit a threshold that in no way could have been an accidental mistake, it was clear abuse of a bug. Deleting the exploited items prior to being banned without GM intervention is a requirement to have an appeal reviewed. That alone doesn't mean that an account will be unbanned.

If you have not violated any rules then you won't be banned. We don't just ban for no reason.

Regards,
GM Team.

but then again the TOU stats the following:

Nostalrius Begins reserves the right, in its sole and absolute discretion, to increase a sanction, suspend or terminate your use of the service at any time, for any reason or for no reason, with or without prior notice to you.

check it : https://en.nostalrius.org/terms-of-use

also I would like to add that people who hit different nods still got the ban hammer and their cases are now under review.[/quote]

That's very interesting indeed. That would have been very useful info to have. Makes a lot of sense also. Thank you.

[ismackyeinthegabber]

FYI people who got less than a fixed threshold never got the ban

Cool. I've been trying to get this information. What are you basing this statement on? What was the threshold? How was it calculated? (i.e how did they distinguish between legitimate herbing/mining and exploiting during this period?)

If you have decent answers to any of these questions even if only intervals/approximations I'd appreciate it. Base data is also good such as 20 items = ban, 5 = no ban.

What one might ask: How did legitimate herbing look like in this period of time?
I don't think it's quite the difference whether you herbed every lotus spawn in throughout the world once and started farming other herbs always once. You knew by then that they had to be bugged for all of them being spawned and not picked already. I'm seriosly interested how this looked like.

[Niko]

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