Fresh start vs old characters (come in)

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Re: Fresh start vs old characters (come in)

by Arucado » Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:09 am

DéUs wrote:Something i find funny: the same people who were complaning about adding the old nostalrius' characters (remember that nostalrius is older than just his internationnal release) after few months (i.e. after bwl if i remember properly) are the same complaining about a potential wipe out of their beloved characters.

I had many 60 stuffed characters before the new start, i still had a 60 on the new Nostalrius and i am still willing to have a new start.

With all the advertisement Nostalrius had within the couple past months, many new players will come and will want to enjoy the journey like you did when you were yourself a new player. Why can't we restart one more time and enjoy all together with a bigger community?


Because if they restarded twice who says there won't be a third? No ty, there is no way we can trust them if they do such thing again, i played here because i thought the effort i invest would last forever. Obviously seems like i was wrong but hey, if they wipe the old data again, FUCK THEM , im not willing to repeat the same process again (took 45 days played) to get my progress burnt out again
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Re: Fresh start vs old characters (come in)

by snawfu » Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:23 pm

can i buy my nostralius™ brand sneakers yet
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Re: Fresh start vs old characters (come in)

by Qler » Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:48 pm

I think the following could be a good compromise for both:


1. Open one PVP realm ( NOSTALRIUS ONE )with all the old characters from the PVP realm and the PVE realm (merged). This realm will re-start somewhere before the release of AQ.

2. Open one ASIAN realm ( ASIAN ONE )with all the old characters from asian players and make this realm only available to asian players.This server will start somewhere before BWL. Any new asian player has to play on this realm - regardless of the state of content in the future.

3. Open up two fresh new realms ( NOSTALRIUS II ), one PVP and one PVE. Both realms have a fresh new start in the known nostalrius-progressive-procedure. If either PVP or PVE have a lack of player, you can merge them.


The problems of these 3 possibilities would be:

1. NOSTALRIUS ONE would have all the old players,however, which will have one more year of content and then the content would be over. New players wouldn't have any intention in playing here, due to missing gear etc. What you guys have to consider, if you level up on a realm that has been live for a long time already, almost no one is doing the dungeons you need anymore ( especially compared to the actual playerbase ). Enjoy finding a good Tank for UBRS when 90% of warriors have t2 and literally zero intention of going into ubrs ( or Scholo, Strat, you name it ). So new players have to count on other new players or twinks. Furthermore, the server will have a lack of newcomers, which might end up to ceasing playernumbers when content moves on. More players could get bored, the casuals could get overwhelmed ( dont get me wrong, but naxx is truly different from BWL and MC when it comes to preparation ) and so some might not be interested anymore. Eventually, the server will become unattractive to new players.

2. Meanwhile, NOSTALRIUS II could advertise with the availabilty of oldschool mounts again or some things like that, to get more players. It might be possible that ( especially when split into pve and pvp ) theres a lack of players since a lot would just go to NOSTALRIUS ONE to play their old characters and bring new friends they made on kronos 2, elysium etc. It could be possible that eventually, pvp and pve have to merge, which will ofc lead to the usual debate in that context. Moreover, if this new merged realm would be pvp as well, nostalrius would not offer any pve realm anymore. However, I think this could be avoided if nostalrius manages to advertise those realms a lot. If the Devs manage to equally distribute the available players between those 4 realms, every single one could be populated with 3k+ people, which is more than enough. Moreover, cross-realm battlegrounds could be possible between NOSTALRIUS ONE - ASIA and new PVP - new PVE.


However, I think that this is very difficult to achieve ( besides the factor of developing, scripting, work and financing for 4 different realms at 3 different content stages with - apparently - 4 different amounts of populations. Thus, a fresh new restart for EVERYONE, meaning one PVP, one PVE and one ASIAN server is just the best.


TL;DR: stop bitching about char whipe, get over it. How can some people even be so sassy to demand their characters back. If ( and only if ) Nost comes back, be fucking happy u ungrateful peace of shit, no matter in what ways the return. This is the risk you take when playing PS, the server and hence your char might disappear at some point. This happened like 123z198w31023z1 times in the PS community. Consider your non-existant monthly fee as a compensation for this. man...this outcry was not imaginable some years ago.


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Re: Fresh start vs old characters (come in)

by tobach » Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:51 pm

Arucado wrote:Because if they restarded twice who says there won't be a third? No ty, there is no way we can trust them if they do such thing again, i played here because i thought the effort i invest would last forever. Obviously seems like i was wrong but hey, if they wipe the old data again, FUCK THEM , im not willing to repeat the same process again (took 45 days played) to get my progress burnt out again


Playing on a private server, I have no idea why you would think that your progress would be saved forever.

Also, isn't the leveling experience supposed to be one of the best features of vanilla? It sure is for me.

The only thing I'm afraid of regarding wiping the characters, are people like you who aren't willing to level a new main. Because several people have burned themselves out playing on other crap vanilla servers, or are simply not willing to level again- after having done it on Nost once. -including several guild mates.
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Re: Fresh start vs old characters (come in)

by snawfu » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:13 pm

tobach wrote:
Arucado wrote:Because if they restarded twice who says there won't be a third? No ty, there is no way we can trust them if they do such thing again, i played here because i thought the effort i invest would last forever. Obviously seems like i was wrong but hey, if they wipe the old data again, FUCK THEM , im not willing to repeat the same process again (took 45 days played) to get my progress burnt out again


Playing on a private server, I have no idea why you would think that your progress would be saved forever.

Also, isn't the leveling experience supposed to be one of the best features of vanilla? It sure is for me.

The only thing I'm afraid of regarding wiping the characters, are people like you who aren't willing to level a new main. Because several people have burned themselves out playing on other crap vanilla servers, or are simply not willing to level again- after having done it on Nost once. -including several guild mates.


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Re: Fresh start vs old characters (come in)

by tobach » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:15 pm

snawfu wrote:cant wait to gank you again lad


Who are you?
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Re: Fresh start vs old characters (come in)

by snawfu » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:29 pm

tobach wrote:
snawfu wrote:cant wait to gank you again lad


Who are you?

i remove you from dm east
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Re: Fresh start vs old characters (come in)

by tobach » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:38 pm

snawfu wrote:i remove you from dm east


Ah, you're a Chinaman. Gotcha.

Good luck with that.
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Re: Fresh start vs old characters (come in)

by snawfu » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:44 pm

nah lad i was there before the chinese

i think i got a few ragewhispers from you too
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Re: Fresh start vs old characters (come in)

by ssishtar » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:59 pm

Thing is that old characters are pointless now. We don't have guilds, 90% of us lost connections with the members from our guilds, so it's idiotic to think that IF Nostalrius would fire up the server in the same state, suddenly we'll all pop back and resume our work. It's not gonna happen, gonna be chaos. I have 4 lvl 60s on Nostalrius, yet I want a fresh server.
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