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Re: Why you should not make a Warrior.

by Arucado » Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:57 pm

Fotm wrote:
Arucado wrote:- Leveling will be a nightmare.
This is true
- Totally gear-dependent. (you better be r14 geared otherwise you will be a lil useless)
Warriors are a more gear dependent class, the second part is just false. You're an idiot.
- You can absolutely no solo play against any class, any child of 5 years old ,no matter how good you are, would solo you while doing /dance, specially frost mages.
You're obviously shit at pvp.
- You can't enjoy bg without a healer on your back, since any caster class will 2shot you even being blue geared.
Still obviously shit at pvp.
- Your making-money way is stupidly bad, you can't solo maraudon, you can't solo DM east.
I think I said earlier that you're an idiot, right? You're an idiot.
- Adding to last sentence that Warrior is a class who needs to be constantly respeccing from PVP to PVE talents and viceversa, making the cost money a total madness.
Adding to last sentence, you're still an idiot.


I bet im far better than you in PvP, but i won't go into that since all you say is "you are idiot, you are shit". Every class is retardedly easy to play in vanilla. And for that warlock who posted that, all you have to do against a Warrior is:

-Seduce
-Soulfire
-Seduce
-Soulfire

Gratzs, you killed me with 2 buttons, ah, and btw you don't even need that , you can just sacrifice your voidwolker and i will generate 0 rage because you have a shield that absorbs more than your whole life, and if that's not enough you can just get me into combat evading charge, if i intercept you use death coil, then run away 24/7 kappa waiting for free instant shadowbolt and doing /dance while your debuffs kill me in 10 seconds.
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Re: Why you should not make a Warrior.

by rinaun » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:27 am

Arucado wrote:
Fotm wrote:
Arucado wrote:- Leveling will be a nightmare.
This is true
- Totally gear-dependent. (you better be r14 geared otherwise you will be a lil useless)
Warriors are a more gear dependent class, the second part is just false. You're an idiot.
- You can absolutely no solo play against any class, any child of 5 years old ,no matter how good you are, would solo you while doing /dance, specially frost mages.
You're obviously shit at pvp.
- You can't enjoy bg without a healer on your back, since any caster class will 2shot you even being blue geared.
Still obviously shit at pvp.
- Your making-money way is stupidly bad, you can't solo maraudon, you can't solo DM east.
I think I said earlier that you're an idiot, right? You're an idiot.
- Adding to last sentence that Warrior is a class who needs to be constantly respeccing from PVP to PVE talents and viceversa, making the cost money a total madness.
Adding to last sentence, you're still an idiot.


I bet im far better than you in PvP, but i won't go into that since all you say is "you are idiot, you are shit". Every class is retardedly easy to play in vanilla. And for that warlock who posted that, all you have to do against a Warrior is:

-Seduce
-Soulfire
-Seduce
-Soulfire

Gratzs, you killed me with 2 buttons, ah, and btw you don't even need that , you can just sacrifice your voidwolker and i will generate 0 rage because you have a shield that absorbs more than your whole life, and if that's not enough you can just get me into combat evading charge, if i intercept you use death coil, then run away 24/7 kappa waiting for free instant shadowbolt and doing /dance while your debuffs kill me in 10 seconds.


Ignore the trolls, no point in even responding to the 1/10 ones atleast. When they actually attempt to troll decently, I love the arguments along the line of "You're bad at vanilla WoW, I'd beat you in a duel". It's like they have no comprehension of how vanilla WoW was designed or how PvP fundamentally works. You really think a warrior solo without endgame gear can handle most classes in blues 1v1? You are fucking autistic dude. Like, go get checked right away.

This isn't even counting in shit like the fact that "PvP" in vanilla was horrifically balanced, or the state of the server currently. The server when I was playing in EUROPE was comical in regards to PvP. I'd basically just circle-strafe kids and win all day because of server issues on their end or benefiting me. When I went back after a month to the West Coast from Berlin, PvP became unplayable again on my warrior. Out of range. Out of range. Standing on target, Out of Range. People would do what I did to them, and 9/10 I'd lose, even with a level advantage at times. This wasn't the same on any caster class I played, because guess what? I could use the server being shit to my advantage. Warriors and Rogues (also a few other off-spec classes) have it pretty rough on this server, especially playing from a non-EU location. Don't even try bringing up shit like "CHECK THIS VANILLA VIDEO OUT LOL BAD" because this isn't fucking true vanilla, and its pretty clear between the server issues and small minute bugs, that casters have a pretty large advantage compared to the already-large edge they had.

Additionally, the only true form of PvP "Balance" (LOL) in vanilla WoW was BGs and even then on a private server its so unhealthy running premades that I could never do it like the tryhard asians are right now. It ruins the entire fun for everyone else playing, all for what, some fucking purple pixels? Only then is "my opinion on endgame" deemed valid by people who are so downsie they can't even enchant/do their decade-old class rotation right, and I can go sit in OG feeling complete IRL.......

I'll pass. For now, at least.
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Re: Why you should not make a Warrior.

by Darkroman » Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:39 am

How to not fail as a leveling warrior:
1. Train rend, hamstring, and thunderclap once, and don't uprank them (unless you got gold to burn).
2. Mocking blow and challenging shout aren't needed until you start tanking dungeons at higher levels.
3. Level as fury, whether you do it 2H or DW, doesn't matter. Choose whatever is the best weapon you have available.
4. Being 2 levels above the content helps out immensely
5. If you're 2H or DW, keep a one-hand weapon and shield on you and make a macro to switch between weapons to perform shield bash on casters.
6. Level first-aid
7. Pull carefully.
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Re: Why you should not make a Warrior.

by Muhsogyny » Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:50 am

Leveling my warrior wasn't bad at all, since I'm not a fucking idiot.

Warriors are the best class in pvp. Top tier alliance premades are made entirely of MS warriors, frost mages, and holy paladins. Maybe one priest but not necessary at all because Alliance doesn't have to worry about fighting other paladins.

I'll admit that pvping as a warrior on horde is a bad idea because you don't have paladins to cleanse everything off you and give you BoF. But pvping on horde in general is a bad idea as any class, especially if you are solo queueing.
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Re: Why you should not make a Warrior.

by Niko » Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:43 am

it's fucking vanilla warrior

deal
with
it
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Re: Why you should not make a Warrior.

by Krom » Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:07 pm

At first, I also feeled a bit sick of wasting so much time on a Warrior, for finally what ?
Spending 150% more in gear, gold, and skill to still be a living joke for the whole majority of others classes, being incapable of doing anything by yourself, watching other always having it so easy ect ect ...
Quitted and whined for a time.

Then I changed my view about the game.

I understood Warrior is the class, Vanilla style, that you play most for challenge and improvment. You don't get everything served to you on a silver plate, and this way playing and succeed don't feel like the normal way, but as a reward. It's the class for hardcore people, the kind wich don't let their brains apart when playing a game (Lore-wise, it also always seemed so paradoxical to me that Mages, who are supposed to be so much more "intelligents" than big dull hitting Warriors, have in reality an infinitely more stupid gameplay in the encounter) ...

That's when the fun hit.
Also, you most of the time looks 200% Awesome, and Warrior apparently shine at very late content so, just wait and see for a sweet revenge of yours :D

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Re: Why you should not make a Warrior.

by Niko » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:23 pm

Basically, you will have to try harder at most aspects as a warrior and if you're successful at it you'll excell.
Warriors are topdps through out content with the proper gear, come to raids.
Warriors are one of the must have classes for premade battegrounds.

It's a high-end class and it sucks without gear. Also if you get rekt by every class 1v1, you perhaps should focus some time and money on getting engineering with frost/shadow/fire reflectors, nets and other gadgets to help counter classes.
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Re: Why you should not make a Warrior.

by Volo » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:55 am

Arucado wrote:
Fotm wrote:
Arucado wrote:- Leveling will be a nightmare.
This is true
- Totally gear-dependent. (you better be r14 geared otherwise you will be a lil useless)
Warriors are a more gear dependent class, the second part is just false. You're an idiot.
- You can absolutely no solo play against any class, any child of 5 years old ,no matter how good you are, would solo you while doing /dance, specially frost mages.
You're obviously shit at pvp.
- You can't enjoy bg without a healer on your back, since any caster class will 2shot you even being blue geared.
Still obviously shit at pvp.
- Your making-money way is stupidly bad, you can't solo maraudon, you can't solo DM east.
I think I said earlier that you're an idiot, right? You're an idiot.
- Adding to last sentence that Warrior is a class who needs to be constantly respeccing from PVP to PVE talents and viceversa, making the cost money a total madness.
Adding to last sentence, you're still an idiot.


I bet im far better than you in PvP, but i won't go into that since all you say is "you are idiot, you are shit". Every class is retardedly easy to play in vanilla. And for that warlock who posted that, all you have to do against a Warrior is:

-Seduce
-Soulfire
-Seduce
-Soulfire

Gratzs, you killed me with 2 buttons, ah, and btw you don't even need that , you can just sacrifice your voidwolker and i will generate 0 rage because you have a shield that absorbs more than your whole life, and if that's not enough you can just get me into combat evading charge, if i intercept you use death coil, then run away 24/7 kappa waiting for free instant shadowbolt and doing /dance while your debuffs kill me in 10 seconds.

soulfire has a cooldown.
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Re: Why you should not make a Warrior.

by waterz » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:37 am

Most classes have to choose between PvE and PvP spec. Not just warriors.
At least there is purpose for prots in bgs.
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