Stealing Neutral Auctions via Botting

[nayku]

Oh they are almost certainly not doing that.

99.9% they have the auction window open and have an addon continually scanning the auctionhouse buying anything that matches the criteria they've set as soon as the addon can find it. This should take something like 2 seconds +/- 2 seconds after posting.

Still not botting though.

"Also known as AFK gaming, a bot is a method of controlling an in-game character by an automated means that does not require direct interaction from a player"

Sounds like a bot to me.

you're a dip shit.

you can literally turn off the automatic remove /afk feature within wow and turn /afk on. i've done it before because ive seen tards run up to the AH and i faked afk and stole their auctions. the problem is people like you get shit stolen from and u scream bot. herpderp

[slverbaur]

I think people in this thread are a bit hard on OP. How would he even be sure that it was a bot after the first try? It could be just pure unluck. What if he had made this post with only one try at the AH. I don't think people would be so sure that it was a bot as they are now.


But next time you want to transfer something that you don't want to sell, then start by (on your alt) putting something ridiculus like Stag Meat for 300g and then buy it on your main (which has the item you want to transfer). Then on your main, put the item up you want to transfer for 300g and buy it with the character that sold the Stag Meat for 300g.

Now your alt has the item and the main still has his 300g, and no bot tried to buy it because it was ridiculusly over prized.

[DeeMarie]

you can literally turn off the automatic remove /afk feature within wow and turn /afk on. i've done it before because ive seen tards run up to the AH and i faked afk and stole their auctions. the problem is people like you get shit stolen from and u scream bot. herpderp

This might be difficult for you to understand, but if you're afk on the can while running an addon that automates your game play, well let's just say people have been banned for less.

And I remember the tradedispenser thing, was pretty rough, I thought it was an awesome idea and one that actually helped people.

So we have two instances, one where any special needs like nayku can run an addon and touch themselves for screwing someone over and thinking how clever they are. The other like Vanilla who used the addon for others benefit.

One gets perma banned, the other is allowed to carry on. Unfortunately that's just Nostalrius.

[Leythia]

Off topic

[trorsmang]

There are people botting the neutral AH. I was x-ferring stuff across to horde and had my 2 most valuable items sniped. I was putting the items up on main and buying them with alt like 2 seconds later. I put up shadowfang that i WAS going to use for a lvl 19 twink and it was bought INSTANTLY. Not even a full second after I put it up. Just not possible without a bot. It was sniped so fast when i tabbed over to my horde alt it still showed it in the AH and when i bought it out all I got was my 5 silver returned in the mailbox. It sickens me to think there are people in this world so pathetic they claim to sit at neutral ah all day sniping people's transfers legit without a bot. Like if thats true and you are actually sitting there faking afk all day to take peoples shit you are fucking pathetic. I don't buy it however and I'm 100% sure it was a bot since my item was stolen in a fuckin millisecond. No I did not put it up for 1 copper either.

I think people in this thread are a bit hard on OP. How would he even be sure that it was a bot after the first try? It could be just pure unluck. What if he had made this post with only one try at the AH. I don't think people would be so sure that it was a bot as they are now.


But next time you want to transfer something that you don't want to sell, then start by (on your alt) putting something ridiculus like Stag Meat for 300g and then buy it on your main (which has the item you want to transfer). Then on your main, put the item up you want to transfer for 300g and buy it with the character that sold the Stag Meat for 300g.

Now your alt has the item and the main still has his 300g, and no bot tried to buy it because it was ridiculously over prized.

Wow, you must not realize that the AH takes out a huge cut.

[nenski]

There are people botting the neutral AH. I was x-ferring stuff across to horde and had my 2 most valuable items sniped. I was putting the items up on main and buying them with alt like 2 seconds later. I put up shadowfang that i WAS going to use for a lvl 19 twink and it was bought INSTANTLY. Not even a full second after I put it up. Just not possible without a bot. It was sniped so fast when i tabbed over to my horde alt it still showed it in the AH and when i bought it out all I got was my 5 silver returned in the mailbox. It sickens me to think there are people in this world so pathetic they claim to sit at neutral ah all day sniping people's transfers legit without a bot. Like if thats true and you are actually sitting there faking afk all day to take peoples shit you are fucking pathetic. I don't buy it however and I'm 100% sure it was a bot since my item was stolen in a fuckin millisecond. No I did not put it up for 1 copper either.

I think people in this thread are a bit hard on OP. How would he even be sure that it was a bot after the first try? It could be just pure unluck. What if he had made this post with only one try at the AH. I don't think people would be so sure that it was a bot as they are now.


But next time you want to transfer something that you don't want to sell, then start by (on your alt) putting something ridiculus like Stag Meat for 300g and then buy it on your main (which has the item you want to transfer). Then on your main, put the item up you want to transfer for 300g and buy it with the character that sold the Stag Meat for 300g.

Now your alt has the item and the main still has his 300g, and no bot tried to buy it because it was ridiculously over prized.

Wow, you must not realize that the AH takes out a huge cut.

Just not possible without a bot

If you used your fingers for 15 seconds you could find out that this 'bot' you're claiming, can be made using WoWs API. You can literally program something to show you the cheapest item on the list, and then choose to buy it.

Too bad that regardless of if it's a bot, you can still search by rarity, and used a control modifier to buy something on the auction house.


You people need to just stop transferring items and this wouldn't be a fu_king issue in the first place.
Want to see if it's a bot? Whisper it. Did it not respond? Try killing it. Did it revive and go to the same place? Open a ticket. GM at this point should try and move it away from the auctioneer, or take it to the room.

The fact here is this: You people get sniped, you get upset, post about it, page a GM and cry.

You don't give two shits that it's a bot. You just care about transferring your items. Stop pretending you give two shits. You all just want an outlet to transfer items which at this point seems to be the GMs, seeing how you all post about paging them.

The GMs on Blizzard from Vanilla to WotLK would read a ticket titled;
"I'm a dip shit and transferred items for an extremely low price and someone bought it. They're a bot and you should ban them and give me my stuff back because I'm too lazy to farm, and too greedy to transfer gold."


It's unreal that you idiots are more concerned with some that is happening because you're to blame. The GMS could be handling grind bot tickets, and exploiters, but no, Please MR.GM, let me have my item.


You're crowding the forum with diarrhea. Stop posting about this sh_t.

[DeeMarie]

You people need to just stop transferring items and this wouldn't be a fu_king issue in the first place.

Yes, stop playing a part of the game because issues.

I've never used the neutral AH, mainly because I know it'll get sniped. Not everyone knows this though. You going to educate every new player to the server?

If Nos can ban people for using pre-made addons, for using TradeDispenser, they can spend the time to sort this one out too.

[Tinkertown]

If Nos can ban people for using pre-made addons

Banned for abusing a bug. It obviously doesn't matter if you use an addon or do it manualy.

for using TradeDispenser

That has never happened. Banned for outside automation to stay online. Specifically stated by Nost staff in the thread.

they can spend the time to sort this one out too.

Since the vetting of GMs probably is worse here than at Blizzard and the appeal process seem to have significant flaws there is always a risk that you get banned for anything and you might not even get unbanned. It clearly isn't against the current rules to run AH addons though.

[Vanillerific]

Vanillerific, yes. Your case was exactly the one I was thinking of. As you know you weren't banned for the addon but for your staying online method.

I know you say that you stayed online by pressing the buttons yourself but not always looking at your screen and while technically that isn't botting, it creates the scenario where the GM cab try to contact you and get no response even as you are jumping/whatever to stay online. Moving without looking at your screen while performing tasks that seem fit for a bot will obviously have a high risk of resulting in a false positive ban.

Agreed. Unfortunately for me I was never once whispered or otherwise contacted by a GM. If I recall, I was actually mid conversation with people in IF with I got hit with my ban. It was clear that the majority of the staff had never used or heard of tradedispenser and figured that this auto trading was happening too fast for a person. It was also set up with auto replies for low levels that tried to trade me to let them know I didn't have low level consumables in my inventory and to prevent people from trading me more than twice and just throwing away my whole bag full of stuff (people can be jerks).

If I had never seen it I'd come to the same conclusion. It wasn't until I made a big deal about it on the forum (and my appeal had already been closed) that anyone bothered to really educate themselves on the addon. Unfortunately at that time the staff was still in the "we're never wrong" mode so once I was banned it was never going to be overturned. It seems like recently they have realized that they are actually capable of making mistakes and have been unbanning false positives.

It's really a matter of the punishments not fitting the crimes (or perceived crimes). In some cases when a judgement is questionable and there was no harm done it seems that a limited ban would be more fitting. In the case of the AH snipers nothing they do will matter because they can create unlimited accounts. If you permaban them they just spend 20 minutes leveling a new one and getting them back to a neutral AH.

[yazur]

Not nice.