Getting banned for herbing

[Glenzig]

Yeah of course, but do you want a whole codification? They have some rule that allows them to ffa ban out on a whim anyway and thats their right since its their server so specifying things... does that help?

Yes it does, because you get a shot at having an actual ruleset. As it stands nobody has any clue whatsoever what qualifies as a minor exploit or a major exploit or whatever and GMs just make up their rules clarification on the spot. Ridiculous.

You can't figure out that infinite resource nodes are a major bug? And that exploiting that bug would therefore be a major exploit?

[ste]

Herb shit, get banned.

Anybody who's played on retail for any length of time, unless they lived under a rock has seen some major exploits, most of which as always lead to a ban. You could sit here and list them and weigh them up in your mind to wether you think they're a exploit or not but none of this matters.

What matters is how the people who run the show see it as, its their set up and their rules. Its like this forum, if they were to ban us all without reason, they could. Why? Because its theirs. Most of you are acting like you're hard done by, when in reality you're not.

You're playing here for free, under a system that is shady in itself due to copyright issues and you expect fair treatment? You've lost nothing but time, suck it up and move on.

[Ana]

You can't figure out that infinite resource nodes are a major bug?

It's not a major bug. It's minor.

Your word against mine?

[Aslan]

You can't figure out that infinite resource nodes are a major bug? And that exploiting that bug would therefore be a major exploit?

That is exactly the stupidity I was talking about. Ignorace rather. Of course it is a major bug, but thats not the point. the ABUSE is whats punished.

Infinite ressources have a huge impact on the server, it destrois the system of the market, its a major bug:
Is it a major bug abuse to farm 5-10 stacks plagueblooms from it? NO.
Is it a major bug abuse to farm 50 stacks Black Lotus from it? YES.

If people multiqueue in AV, thats a small fucking thing, not many would do that and in the size of the server you wouldnt notice it, in my eyes its something between a minor and a major bug. (Not discussing if its a bug at all)
Is it a major bug abuse if people queue 5 man? NO.
Is it a major but abuse if 40 man raids do 5 minute games all day? YES.

[ravensareblack]

What matters is how the people who run the show see it as, its their set up and their rules. Its like this forum, if they were to ban us all without reason, they could. Why? Because its theirs. Most of you are acting like you're hard done by, when in reality you're not.

You're playing here for free, under a system that is shady in itself due to copyright issues and you expect fair treatment? You've lost nothing but time, suck it up and move on.

[Glenzig]

You can't figure out that infinite resource nodes are a major bug?

It's not a major bug. It's minor.

Your word against mine?

No. It's the staffs word against yours. Guess who will always win?

[Glenzig]

You can't figure out that infinite resource nodes are a major bug? And that exploiting that bug would therefore be a major exploit?

That is exactly the stupidity I was talking about. Ignorace rather. Of course it is a major bug, but thats not the point. the ABUSE is whats punished.

Infinite ressources have a huge impact on the server, it destrois the system of the market, its a major bug:
Is it a major bug abuse to farm 5-10 stacks plagueblooms from it? NO.
Is it a major bug abuse to farm 50 stacks Black Lotus from it? YES.

Both are bug abuse. Obviously by the time you are able to gather plaguebloom you know exactly how herb nodes work. If you gather 100 plagueblooms from one node, how could that not be considered abuse?
Obviously some people gathered more than the normal amount from nodes. Otherwise the bug would never have been acknowledged. But it doesn't take very long to realize that there was a bug and you need to submit a ticket and quit gathering.
The only part of the 4 requirements that gets a little gray to me is the fact that you were expected to delete any resources gathered from these nodes. Obviously some people were waiting on clarification on what to do with the resources. I'm sure that if I ran into an infinite resource node that I would stop and report. But, I'm not sure at all what I would have done as far as deleting this resources.

[Ana]

You can't figure out that infinite resource nodes are a major bug?

It's not a major bug. It's minor.

Your word against mine?

No. It's the staffs word against yours. Guess who will always win?

Yeah, staffs' word instead of ToU. How is anyone supposed to follow the rules when they're made up on the spot?

[Setup]

One-size-fits-all punishments are silly. They're treating folks who looted 3,000g in Black Lotus and tried to hide it... the same as they treat someone who looted 20 dreamfoil, and then logged off while waiting for instructions or anticipating a rollback.

Nost can afford to treat its players like trash because it has a huge population. What would give you a short suspension on any other realm is a death sentence here. It's the only realm where you're expected to know if something is a bug at all times (silithus ore), and to know exactly how to respond to specific issues, even when the GMs themselves obviously do not know ahead of time how to respond to these issues, which is demonstrated time and time again, most recently by how at least one GM told a player to keep the herbs they'd looted.

A reprehensible banning policy is the real price we pay for not having to shell out $15 a month.

[Setup]

I'd better stop being critical of the realm while my ban is under review, though.