Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

(Due to lack of response from staff, this will be my last salty post)

User account is comprimised
User account is used for criminal activity
User account is recovered by legitimate user
Regular account use occurs
Account is banned for criminal activity

Lets make a real world comparison...
Individual buys house
Individual goes on vacation
Criminals break into house and use it to make meth
Criminals sell meth out of house
Criminals leave house and move to a new location
Individual comes home and notifies police
Police do their job
Everyone goes back to regular life
Police return, kick individual out of house and condemn home
Individual is left with nothing even though protocol is followed

Anyone see how this is wrong?
#getsalty #victimsarecriminals


*hint: Don't hold a victim accountable for the crime

Except their database, it's up to you, to keep your account safe.

Your analogy is also wrong, one could say the acc. is a tool that was given and then stolen from you to cause harm to the server. So it actually would be your fault.

JeZuZz wrote:Except their database, it's up to you, to keep your account safe.

Your analogy is also wrong, one could say the acc. is a tool that was given and then stolen from you to cause harm to the server. So it actually would be your fault.

The trust relationship is the same.

The government expects citizens to protect their assets and the citizens expect the government to hold the proper people accountable when they fail. In this scenario both the citizens and the government have failed to uphold their sides of the trust relationship.

Collateral damage happens and has obviously occurred here.

maybe next time choose a password that isn't 4 characters long and stop buying gold from china

Nostalrius is running "Full metal Jacket security" style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCNGaafnAGk

Keep your shit locked.

(Locked = unique password and secret accountname and updating password regularly. Safe computer with updated firewall/virus protection)

Here's a better analogy.

You own a car.
Your car gets stolen.
You do not report the theft of your car because either you care very little about your car and don't use it often or it was left unsecured.
Your car is used to commit a criminal offense.
The driver of the car is unclear, all the police know is that your car was involved.
You recover your car.
Police impound your vehicle for the previous criminal offense.


Nostalrius staff won't always be able to tell whether an account has been compromised or not and in the end they don't owe you shit if you let your account get stolen in the first place.

I'd compare it more to a zombie outbreak than a crime spree, if your account got bit in the arm then the nost staff shoot it in the head straight away rather than risk a main character dying just before the final act of the film

But..what if your account, in the zombie apocalypse, is that super hot chick that gets slobbered on by a zombie and you're all like...we should just lock her up in this room; we don't need to kill her for crying out loud she just got some zombie goo on her and everyone is all trigger happy and shit. I mean, it would be smart to off her, but she's hot.

Limbflayer wrote:Here's a better analogy.

You own a car.
Your car gets stolen.
You do not report the theft of your car because either you care very little about your car and don't use it often or it was left unsecured.
Your car is used to commit a criminal offense.
The driver of the car is unclear, all the police know is that your car was involved.
You recover your car.
Police impound your vehicle for the previous criminal offense.


Nostalrius staff won't always be able to tell whether an account has been compromised or not and in the end they don't owe you shit if you let your account get stolen in the first place.

Actually, at least in my specific case, I reported it immediately and was told "ok good, glad things are under your control still" and then banned. So I guess it was a good cop rogue cop scenario.

Here I'll break how this server works for you since you seem new to the internet, and to all the other whiners who can't get a clue.

They don't care about you.
They provide a platform for you to play on.
They provide a strict ToU to keep staff work to a minimum. (unpaid)
If you break any of these, whether on purpose or not, you're gone.
There's no sympathy over the internet.
They don't care about you.

Get a fucking grip, this isn't the real world. This is a private server of a video game over the internet; literally the black water underground of video gaming.